In all honesty, while graphics card have gone a long way since 2006 and I truly expect my competent gaming rig to sweat in order to present me a beautiful rendition of Skyrim, it's not like we're not reaching something not unlike a bottleneck. Graphical fidelity development has reached a point that improvements are in minimal increments. NVidia and ATi are being forced to present alternatives to the good old graphical improvement, like 3D and multi-display.

I expect a MUCH better looking Oblivion on PC than what's been shown so far, but the fact that it's been mentioned to be an X-Box version, I'm OK with it. Actually, I'm better than OK. BAck in the day games were developed for PC and then optimized for consoles. The way it seems the game is being primarily develop for 360 and there will be a significant time to pump the game's graphics on the PC. As long as they dont go the cheap way like Crysis 2 and instead give the PC version the care it deserves, I'm sure it'll look way better than what we've seen so far.

If Skyrim matches the beauty of Oblivion, with the game play of Morrowind I will be happy. I just want "meaty quests" with some beauty thrown in there. It doesn't have to be top of the line as far as graphics go. but that's my opinion. Just happy to play the game.

I just want my draw distance to be far enough for me not to notice it every time i take a step (un modded) especially when i have my 570 i am planning on getting..

Not to start a flame war or derail the thread but I hope you realize that consoles are the only reason that gaming is still around and fun

dude not everyone has the spare money to buy a super special awesome computer just so they can run a game that has state of the art graphics

On an unrelated note: Why didn't you keep your point and just change the quote?

I agree. Skyrim graphics looks rather poor. I would have expected more from "new" engine.


But if bethesda would play its cards right, they should make sound effects/ambient sounds more better and more anyways&high quality as good sound effects doesnt get bitten by age much as graphics does. Example a System Shock 2 looks/feels still very good, just because of the awesome sound effects, even when those graphics looks really bad but still you dont bother at all about graphics when you play it.

Oblivion and fallout 3 used too little of sounds and all ambiet sounds were too silent to be heard. They should be much louder.

I hate it when still nowdays game makers doesnt pay attention to ambience and sounds in general. Also they use music to enchante the atmoshpere too little. Should have more differend musics to differend kind of locations.

Looks fine to me.

Its a fantasy game. Just ask yourself, "What graphics did they have in medieval (as close to Skyrim as you can get) times?" I'd say Skyrim is MUCH better.
lol, but seriously. The graphics are comparable to FPS games of its era. The mist and everything does cover up a little, but none the less the graphics are still amazing- especially for a game of its caliber and size.

*awaits impending flame war*
And if consoles didn't exist, everyone would be on PC gaming, which is, IMO, funner.

Most families have a computer already, dropping the $100-200 on components rather then a console would get you a better rig.. And most PC games sell less for PC then console so in the long run you would save more if you did.. If you don't believe me http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png

thats a chart showing what kind of PC goes for what. If you have a PC right now you just need to look at RAM and GPU really

Also for the one who think that Consoles=gaming :teehee: if that is true then please explain why there are PCs then.. Gaming on PC= need for better gaming tech= "next gen" console

I agree. You could get a PC that can stay on top of graphics for years for around $1000 or less. My PC was $1,000, bought 3 years ago, and can still run most new games on max graphics. Just because new hardware comes out doesn't mean you have to get it.

I build a custom rig for Skyrim and I know it will last a long time. The most expensive part was my GPU, and the close runner up was getting 2 20 inch screens to use with my old monitor to get a triple monitor setup. Didn't buy an Eyefinity GPU for nothing.

What you talkin 'bout Willis?

You seriously think the graphics look bad!?!? When I first saw the trailer I was shocked to see how incredible the graphics were! What do you want? Battlefield 3 graphics? Not happening. Why is there like 50 million threads on the forums complaining about the graphics. Your first statement makes no sense. Look at these images.
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-1.jpg
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-2.jpg
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-3.jpg
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-4.jpg
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-5.jpg
http://www.gamedynamo.com/images/galleries/photo/1140/the-elder-scrolls-iv-v-oblivion-skyrim-image-comparison-6.jpg
These are miles ahead of Oblivion. Why do you complain about a game's screenshots when they were old screenshots? I hope all of you graphic complainers go somewhere else to complain about something that looks good.....
Good Day.

Cool story bro, but what?

I agree aswell, i just got a new computer for $850 and that included monitor and operating system(i've been a console gamer my entire life and got a pc, i was blown away, graphics are much more superior) On topic: i max out all of the modern games i have(fallout new vegas, fallout 3 is sorta modern i guess, but yeah) I'm not too picky on graphics so i won't need to replace anything in my pc for like 2 years or so. It's just amazing, when the new console comes out everyone will be paying $600+ while i pay $850 once and pay 100-200 for upgrades every few years. Not to mention the saved money on games. Not trying to start a flame war, just posting my honest opinions considering i've been a console gamer until only very recently.

Luke Skyrimmer: Im not downing CE by any means. In fact, Im commending the developers on their ability to create such a versatile platform to make games with. The reason they strip it down and plug-in new features is because they can. You can develop any type of game with the engine they created, going all the way back to its humble beginnings of NetImmerse. If a developer wanted to, they could license the product and create an fps like we have never seen. No. My post is nothing more than to remind those who are upset, graphically, and how the similarities between the 2 are obvious to spot. But, to also point out what can be done when a company can make something which can be adapted to new technology.

Now that's winning.

Optimization, look at Crysis 2 on console, that covers this whole "very intelligent none ignorant" discussion.

Crysis 2 covers what Bethesda should NOT do xD

I won't lie, I do wish they took an approach similar to DICE and BF3 when it comes to graphics scaling and different systems.

But then I also guess they would have to gimp the console version too much and lose sales.

They seem to have did what is best for everyone.

not everyone has 1000$ to spare for a damn computer :facepalm:

A PC that can play Skyrim on medium settings these days can be made for under $600. Even so, I know not everyone has the funds for a computer, but many can afford one who would still get a console over a PC - why anyone in their right mind would do this I know not. Maybe if the keyboard and mouse is too complex for them...




I agree 100%. The importance of good sound in games is often overlooked. It really has the potential to add to the immersion. We already know the music will be amazing, but hopefully all the other sounds will be good too

It really wouldn't cause too much distress since if your an average buyer you do not come on forums telling you such or read articles of it only about 1/4 of the gaming community actually check reviews/details before purchasing a game.



Exactly what are you using right now viewing these forums?? $200 (price of average console + a few games) will make a PC better rig with better components then a console..



that argument dosn't work since most controllers are compatible to multiplatform games :wink_smile:

If they didn't waste it on consoles, controllers, and other console-related stuff, and took the time to save up, yeah, they could. :flamethrower: