Another one of these graphics threads, seriously do a search there are 20 of these made every day! :banghead: Look at the trailer if you don't like the screenshots then tell me it still looks outdated, games in motion look much better than old static screenshots and to me they look much better than Oblivion, go load up Oblivion then compare.

All these threads do is end up in a PC VS Console bashing war like this one has, completely getting away from the original topic. For the record I have both and the PS3 looks fantastic on a 52 inch screen whereas my PC uses a 22 inch screen. Each to their own but these topics go nowhere.

Sure they're outdated, it doesn't look great for a console game, it's not "more complex" than a lot of other game, it's not a personal opinion thing whatsoever. It's a bit dated, but whether you care about that, or whether you think it looks good anyway, well then that certainly IS up to you. I still think Windwaker looks good, and that's from 2004.

I'd love it if Skyrim were up there with games I legitimately enjoy just for their visuals like Red Dead, Crysis, or even some parts of Fable 2. But it's not, and I doubt Bethesda is going to change that. So... ohwell. Shrug and move onto things that you know they would be willing to change like conversations or something.

True, the current economy could be forcing some people to buy consoles, but that doesn't mean that the entire gaming industry should cater to them.


Nope, but if your smart with finances and expenses, you can pull together $1000 within a couple years. I'm no upper class, trust me.

I didn't know by simpler you meant easier. I agree, I find the keyboard and mouse easier than a controller too, but that all depends on what you're used to I guess. I thought you were talking about simplicity in terms of mechanical operation.

Also if you are completely new to PC purchasing you will most likely go to Best buy/wal-mart/Dell/etc where they say they have the best prices but you could prolly get the same systems they sell there for $600 less on a site like newegg.. if you pay more then $1300 on your first computer (unless your family or had aid by a friend who has experience with computers) you over payed

thank you. sorry if i got a bit under your skin as well.

What about the I think the graphics look fantastic camp? Because that is the one I am in. Based on the trailer Skyrim is the best looking game I will have ever played or seen artistically. Technically its a step behind the top FPS. But its a massive open world with far more content than those games.

Different games are better on different platforms. I'd never play a platformer like Ratchet & Clank or Spyro on a PC. Just like I'd never play an FPS or RTS on a console.

(seriously, why would anyone want to play CoD on a console? FPS without mouse+keyboard is just terrible.)



Also, even though I haven't played a CoD game since the first one..... what's up with the random rabid hate for WW2 shooters? Is it just because EA is milking the line for all it's worth? Or is it some kind of "genre elitist" thing where you're only allowed to like one type of game at a time? (That'd be silly.... I like all sorts of games. Variety is fun.)

Excuse me?

I'm not clueless about PCs and I hate CoD. I could suggest what I think you should do with your over-generalization, but I'll play nice.

I prefer my Xbox 360. I don't want to spend the money I would need to spend on a PC to get it up to par for the latest games.

It's sad some people only look at the tech side exclusively. What happened to appreciating art?

Im also in 'the graphics look fantastic' camp.

Honestly, they are amazing and beautiful.

True enough. I plan on constructing a top of the line rig for Skyrim, and after tallying all parts on Newegg it came to $1100. That's $1100 for a rig made entirely of parts that are within the top 10 benchmarked rankings! If you go for a mid-high or even just mid range rig it will be well under $1000

EA and Activision have milked WWII well past the limit. There's a point where it's just plain repetitive.

Using Oblivion as a comparison, we can't say anything about Skyrim but, how you know is beyond me.

I've played both on PC and Console. At first I had a PC that ran it on "Medium" budget like you said. Sure it ran, it ran like crap, and medium looked much worse than the Xbox360. So basically paying twice as much for half the experience? Note that this is near release, now you can make an Oblivion-ready machine for like 400, with the most expensive piece being the case, buying retail anyway, a lot of the older hardware isn't in circulation anymore. A True bargain hunter could probably get it for 200, but with the time you save by not searching, you could have made even more out of the difference.

Of course, I dropped in a new card (Another 150 so we're up to 750 now) and it ran great and played smooth as butter, but still, I really can't stand this whole "Omg gaming pc not expensive, can just buy for med settings lolol" Because it's pointless and stupid unless you are into modding. You also assume someone can build their own in order to get the best deal possible, and with that comes risk. When I was practice building, I fried 2 motherboards (On old Intel 133mhz's so lol) forgetting to properly ground myself before. Just sayin, as superior as the PC platform is, it's got too much working against it, in order to harness that power. Still, once you go PC, you never go back. I can't even look at Oblivion 360 anymore.

I had the same experience with Morrowind too, but my PC knowledge back then was so small, I probably overpaid damn near fivefold. Crafty Dell and their "Gettin one". But my "Omg PC gaming rox" revelation came when I saw the Chainmail on the Guard at the very beginning. On the Xbox, I swore it was like a leather tunic because of the ultra-low texture resolution. on the PC I was like OMG CHAINMAIL!!!!!!!!!



Yeah, sound is so overlooked lately. I could go into moar PC gaming stuff, since the difference in sound quality was night-and-day, but really everyone already knows. However, Morrowind and Oblivion had fairly bad sound-design. Morrowind especially, the weapon swinging sounded like a dog with emphysema barking. And the music cues were on a hair trigger. Blighted Rat that can't even move? COMMENCE OUR FINAL BATTLE! Oblivion was just as guilty, almost making no progress in sound design from Morrowind. Seems like in Fallout 3 they finally got some progress going though. Dynamic Ambient Music, and especially, the haunting echo of a lone, unseen radio. Even to this day, walking into a building and hearing that is shiver-inducing goodness.

hell yes high five bro :goodjob: considering all of what we have seen was done on a 360 theyr amazing especcially for such an open game

What they probably mean is they want to be able to meet the PC graphical level but it is a wish they can't have yet.

i agree

How do you like the graphics you have seen for Skyrim?

Then why are you not playing a PC if your truly not clueless you know that you can get a $400 rig that beats a 360 and at par to most games today and you won't have to pay for a membership fee to XBL which alone is a rip off to all xbox owners and you cannot deny that... If you have a PC right now from 2006 up you can spend that $400 and actually be set for around 5 years on that system playing on High on most games

Just take the most recent example. Which game is better, Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age II? First has the story, involving characters, an awesome gameplay while the 2nd has better graphics. DA:O graphics were crap but still it was a great game. Graphics DON'T matter in rpg's. And i would'nt care a bit about bethesda's graphics, they have been great so far, oblivion was probably the best looking game at its time of release. So yeah, great graphics does'nt make a great game.

Well said.

DA2 had better graphics?

It looks the same as Origins, at most it was a bit enhanced...

I know because Skyrim has the same graphics as Oblivion! Aha just joking... partially


:rofl: All so true

*Cliffracer sees you from a mile away, but is stuck on ghostfence = scary battle music for half an hour = fearful paranoia *

because a consoles less expensive then paying $400 just so you can play the same game on a pc :facepalm: did you not read his post completely

But the graphics were mediocre in both of those games... graphics didn't factor in at all. Of course graphics doesn't make a game, but that doesn't mean it's not important right?