Own Realms in Oblivion

Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:17 pm

Hey all,

I'm working on a story for TES, but I was wondering about something.

1) On a site I read that there are many realms in Oblivion, and not all are known. Is this true? Or are there only as much realms in Oblivion as there are Daedric Princes?
2) Where exactly is Mankar's Paradise? The Deadlands?
3) Would there be anything that's wrong with an extremely powerful mage creating a realm in Oblivion, except maybe for the fact that no such mage is known?

Thank you! ^^ And sorry, I'm still kinda learning.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:25 am

Realms of Oblivion are respectively Daedric Princes'. That isn't to say a mage couldn't create his own "realm", I am sure. Unless someone wants to come here and kick me down a step or two about that, lol. But I think a mage could model a realm, or at least an area, using magicka, after Oblivion. But it would have severe limits unlike the real Oblivion realms.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:07 pm

2) Where exactly is Mankar's Paradise? The Deadlands?
I belive it's a sort of enclave inside Dagoth's realm. Not as an island somewhere in oceans of lava, but rather a lesser plane inside a plane.
I also belive that plane where Jagar Tharn imprisoned emperor and Chimera of Desolation was constructed the same way (though Chimera of Desolation was created by Dagon himself).
There also Umbriel from "Infernal City", which is a part of Clavicus Vile's plane, detached from Prince.
And strange place known as the Soul Cairn seems to be located in Oblivion as well.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:06 pm

The Battlespire was built in a pocket realm of Oblivion. That pocket realm was likely created by multiple mages, but it shouldn't be any problem to say that a powerful one could create his own realm.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:24 pm

Has it happened in other cases then the Battlespire aswell? As in mages creating a realm for themselves? Is not, why not?
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:09 am

Has it happened in other cases then the Battlespire aswell? As in mages creating a realm for themselves? Is not, why not?


None that I can think of. I imagine it's very difficult to do. Also, you have to acquire the knowledge to do it.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:04 pm

Yes. Vuhon is a powerful wizard, who essentially constructed his own realm, by breaking* from Clavicus Vile.

*This is still a work-in-progress. He hasn't broken from Vile.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:03 pm

It's debatable whether this was Vuhon's doing or Vile's avatar corrupted by Umbra.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:46 am

Yes. Vuhon is a powerful wizard, who essentially constructed his own realm, by breaking* from Clavicus Vile.

*This is still a work-in-progress. He hasn't broken from Vile.


He kind of cut off a peice of Viles realm, he didn't create one. Also, his plan is to bring Umbriel back to Mundus, isn't it? So, it wouldn't be his own realm.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:26 am

Also, his plan is to bring Umbriel back to Mundus, isn't it?

Yes, and he controls it. Then you could say Umbra controls him, but the point is, he's a powerful wizard with a (piece of a) plane in oblivion.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:09 am

1) On a site I read that there are many realms in Oblivion, and not all are known. Is this true? Or are there only as much realms in Oblivion as there are Daedric Princes?
2) Where exactly is Mankar's Paradise? The Deadlands?
3) Would there be anything that's wrong with an extremely powerful mage creating a realm in Oblivion, except maybe for the fact that no such mage is known?

- Yes, and yes.
- "I’ve learned that the Mysterium Xarxes is both the gate and the key to Camoran’s Paradise. In some sense, the book IS Camoran’s Paradise. Mankar Camoran bound himself to the Xarxes when he created his Paradise, using dark rituals which I will not speak of further."--Martin
- Lore surrounding pocket realms is completely unwritten.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:54 pm

Hey all,

I'm working on a story for TES, but I was wondering about something.

1) On a site I read that there are many realms in Oblivion, and not all are known. Is this true? Or are there only as much realms in Oblivion as there are Daedric Princes?
2) Where exactly is Mankar's Paradise? The Deadlands?
3) Would there be anything that's wrong with an extremely powerful mage creating a realm in Oblivion, except maybe for the fact that no such mage is known?

Thank you! ^^ And sorry, I'm still kinda learning.

1. There are many et'ada. There are only 16 Principalities.
2. Mankar's Paradise would probably be Deadlands, although the key to Paradise is the Mysterium Xarxes, which has great ties to Xarxes. To quote Varieties of Faith in the Empire:

Xarxes is the god of ancestry and secret knowledge. He began as a scribe to Auri-El, and has kept track of all Aldmeri accomplishments, large and small, since the beginning of time. He created his wife, Oghma, from his favorite moments in history.

In this sense, the Mysterium Xarxes would have definite connections to Hermaeus Mora, so Paradise could lie within his realm just as well as Dagon's.
3. Yes it would be very wrong. A mage could not create a realm in Oblivion. Until the Oblivion Crisis, it was nearly impossible to gain entrance into Oblivion. Even then, the most a mage could do was enter Oblivion. In order to create a realm he must create a Tower and a Stone. This is something that has been done in Mundus but not in Oblivion. It is also worth nothing that the Daedric Princes are their realms as well.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:47 am

1. There are many et'ada. There are only 16 Principalities.
2. Mankar's Paradise would probably be Deadlands, although the key to Paradise is the Mysterium Xarxes, which has great ties to Xarxes. To quote Varieties of Faith in the Empire:

Xarxes is the god of ancestry and secret knowledge. He began as a scribe to Auri-El, and has kept track of all Aldmeri accomplishments, large and small, since the beginning of time. He created his wife, Oghma, from his favorite moments in history.

In this sense, the Mysterium Xarxes would have definite connections to Hermaeus Mora, so Paradise could lie within his realm just as well as Dagon's.
3. Yes it would be very wrong. A mage could not create a realm in Oblivion. Until the Oblivion Crisis, it was nearly impossible to gain entrance into Oblivion. Even then, the most a mage could do was enter Oblivion. In order to create a realm he must create a Tower and a Stone. This is something that has been done in Mundus but not in Oblivion. It is also worth nothing that the Daedric Princes are their realms as well.


Xarxes only gave Dagon and Mora the knowledge to create their books. Also, Mora has no connection to the Mysterium Xarxes.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:52 pm

- Lore surrounding pocket realms is completely unwritten.


Almost anyway. Few tibits.

Aetherius is full of Magic.
Oblivion if is full of void and mostly devoid of magic.
The intercept mentions that Magic is stuff that you need to do things in the void..
Mundus is located smack dab in the middle of Oblivion and is pumping ing magic.
The bit on the anchors in Battlespire that mentions you need to put in Magicka to keep the void from washing over it.
Towers can harvest it from Obivioln.

So start those manapumps,hose down a nice patch of void with your mana and shape it to your liking.

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I reckon Camoran's Paradise was Camoran. You kill him and then the whole thing dies.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:32 pm

He was in love with himself, after all.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:12 pm

I reckon Camoran's Paradise was Camoran. You kill him and then the whole thing dies.

Was it him, or was he just the anchor, like a Sigil Stone?
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:33 am

Was it him, or was he just the anchor, like a Sigil Stone?

it was him. Perhaps in order to build a realm so big, he used something that has to do with the book.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:36 pm

Was it him, or was he just the anchor, like a Sigil Stone?


Probably both, people are towers too.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:14 pm

Or mabey he bound the Amulet of Kings to the realm. So if the Amulet leaves his possession the realm collapses.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:47 pm

Xarxes only gave Dagon and Mora the knowledge to create their books. Also, Mora has no connection to the Mysterium Xarxes.

In Oblivion Ohgma Infininium took the form of Mysterium Xarxes.

Plus they'd still be connected through association.
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