i hated this in oblivion. If my male character takes someones dress and puts it on, it should stay a dress. Same for female characters. If i want to wear pants that some guy has and i take them, it shouldnt automatically turn into a dress

It doesn't indeed make sense what if my male character wants to wear a dress and my female character not ...

Search bar is your friend

It really isn't in this case.
I vote that search bars should be removed from all forums on the internet, because it is the number 1 cause of stupid comments that don't add anything to the conversation.

:tops:

And when someone does use it, people start making comments about necro'ing old threads.

As for the topic, I agree. It was hard for me to find a nice pair of pants for my character because most things turned to dresses the moment she put them on. It was annoying.

I agree. I want to wear a pretty dress if I damn well please.

I'm not againist what your saying. I'm just laughing at you for trying on a ladies dress.

I thought you meant the UK meaning of pants and was instantly bemused.

But yeah, I see what you mean. Seeing as they already had seperate models for the skirts and the trousers then why not make them seperate items?

... way too much work to implement just for the few folks who want their characters to cross-dress just for lulz.
I'd prefer a system in which male characters can't loot clothes from females and vise versa.

I would like the idea of items staying gender neutral, but the argument is valid for both directions. Sometimes I like armor/clothing the way it is and don't want it to conform to my character and sometimes I like armor/clothing to fit my character instead of being static. I think many people find instances of both situations being desirable.

*types clothes, skirt, pants into search bar*

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1182604-pants-for-the-women-and-dresses-for-the-men/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1171804-gender-specific-clothes/

And this echo chamber of a thread adds what to the forums? :meh:

Good job as always.

What does it take away?

Because they only had two separate meshes. In order to have it so that men could wear skirts and women wear pants, they'd have to have four different meshes, and a way to determine which one you wanted.

When your character puts on a pair of pants (or a skirt, or what-have-you), he doesn't actually place a clothing item on top of his body - that part of his body is replaced by the clothing item, which is its own mesh.

It's easy enough right now to set it up in the CS so that, for instance, male characters get the skirt version of an item rather than the pants version. But that male character is going to end up with a female body, because that's the only mesh there is for a skirt. In order to make it so that male characters could wear skirts, they'd have to create a male skirt mesh.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's just what they end up doing though - rather than having skirt and pants versions of the basic clothing, they'll have basic skirts and basic pants, with male and female meshes for each.

The reason is obviously that it is convenient for the player.

If it's realism you're after, then that skirt or pair of trousers probably wouldn't fit anyway.

Edit: Or look at gpstr's post if you wanna get technical.

Takes away nothing.
And I like the fact that those are months apart from each other- I bet that 95% of all threads have been said before. I've NEVER seen this kind of thread before. It is comparitively quite rare compared to other ones.
And, of course, you get yelled at for necro'ing if you try to restart conversation in those.
Saying "search bar" is not thinking, just giving a cookie-cutter response that is annoying.
And EVERYTHING has had a thread about it- and its not a bad thing to make more. Imagine if there was only 1 thread complaining about levelling in the entire run of the Oblivion forums; it would NEVER get taken out that way.

Right on.