Pants for the women and dresses for the men! : V - Skyrim

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:46 am

Seeing how this games basis is a Nordic lifestyle it would be pretty realistic to see kilts or a variation of a kilt in game.

...what does a Nordic lifestyle have to do with kilts?

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:26 am

I will quite literally roll my eyes if guys wear mostly covering armor and women get skimpy stuff. From the looks of at least early armor however men aren't completely covered this time so I guess slight skimpiness is gender neutral for some armor? :tongue:

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:26 pm

Sure, why not. It's also annoying how some armor became especially revealing when put on female characters, not that this was a bad thing, but from a practical point of view, it didn't provide much protection in the cleavage area....

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:05 pm

Total agreementism.
:clap:

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:40 am

I don't see why not.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:13 am

Imperial soldiers and Great House guards looked awesome in skirts, and very few of the female characters I played were the dress wearing type. I very much liked how that was handled in Morrowind, and how minimal the changes were between armor from women to men. Quite refreshing.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:40 am

No pants. No skirts. Just loincloths for everyone. And ONLY loincloths. For men, women and children alike.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:01 am

Seeing how this games basis is a Nordic lifestyle it would be pretty realistic to see kilts or a variation of a kilt in game.

Kilts are from scotland and scotland is not Nordic.

People need to get their crap straight, Nords in TES (as of morrowind) are a hybrid between scottish tribe culture and viking culture. The blue face paints in Morrowind are very Pictish in nature, Claymores are of Scottish origin. Many nords in Morrowind have scottish accents, the nordic weapons like broadswords and nordic claymores have embroidered celtic knots on them, the shield dovakhiin has is covered in celtic knots but the Nords are also very seaworthy and have sort of a gung-ho warrior nature that may have been traditional in Viking mythology.

The more you know :foodndrink:

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:15 am

If Mazoga the Orc can be convinced shes a knight I have no problem imagining a male Orc who is convinced he looks better in a dress.
I think it might be fun to run into him.
Yes, I like this idea. I didnt like magically transforming clothes. If clothes stayed the same regardless of what gender wears them, that means there are twice as much customisation options for your character. And thats a good thing.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:59 am

Certainly would be fun saving the world as a crossdresser of ambiguous gender, a "man" in this town a "woman" in that (bonus points if NPCs are confused by it). Gender-essentialism is just so late 3rd era.

Would be nice if they had some exotic imported clothes from other provinces as well. People shouldn't be dressed as locals unless, you know, they are.

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:53 pm

Absolutely.

One of my first Morrowind characters was an Orc male. He wore Bonemold armor and Extravagant (or was it Expensive? Whatever I looted from that nice NPC south of Pelagiad) skirt. And actually he looked pretty tough in that outfit.

Pants for females are no-brainer, and skirts for males are, well, I don't see any problem with that. As far as I remember, Roman soldiers used skirt-like protection of their legs. Also, kilts.

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:16 pm

First: There were pants that female characters could wear.

Second: Men in dresses? I REALLY don't want dress-up to be one of the game's most easily recognized features.

Third: You crazy.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:27 am

Kilts are from scotland and scotland is not Nordic.

People need to get their crap straight, Nords in TES (as of morrowind) are a hybrid between scottish tribe culture and viking culture. The blue face paints in Morrowind are very Pictish in nature, Claymores are of Scottish origin. Many nords in Morrowind have scottish accents, the nordic weapons like broadswords and nordic claymores have embroidered celtic knots on them, the shield dovakhiin has is covered in celtic knots but the Nords are also very seaworthy and have sort of a gung-ho warrior nature that may have been traditional in Viking mythology.

The more you know :foodndrink:

This. Hypno Toad has the right idea. We recognize that Nirn is not Earth, however, the Nord theme is based on, or is inspired by the Vikings.

From the Viking Lady Site:

Scotland was the site of the first recorded Viking raid when, in 793 AD, the monastery at Lindisfarne was sacked, with Iona and the Isle of Skye being attacked the next year. The Celtic impulse to hermitage and monasticism combined left a string of vulnerable churches and monastic communities on the coastlines, making for easy access for Viking raiders.

Viking Age Scotland saw a major influx of Scandinavian settlers and conquerors in Scotland and the surrounding islands. Settlers from Norway came to the Shetlands, the Orkneys, the Hebridies, the Isle of Man, the Western Islands, and parts of the Scottish mainland, attracted because the land and climate were similar to that back home in Scandinavia, with the added attraction of their proximity to the profitable Viking centers in Ireland and England. The Vikings lived next to and intermarried with the native Celtic populations.

With respect to the kilt, those seemed to appear somewhere around the 16th century on Earth. Now on Nirn, a skirt type for males seems to predate Skyrim

I do want my bardess to be able to wear a leather outfit that includes pants vs skirt.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:04 am

I don't really care about skirts on males - the possibility can't hurt I suppose - but having everything turn into skirts on females is a bit silly.

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:45 pm

Right, seems to me that everyone who is disagreeing with this is only looking at one side of the argument, probably because most of us play male characters. Yes, men wearing dresses would maybe be quite comical and not right for Skyrim. But women shouldn't be forced into wearing dresses, just because they're women.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:31 am

Yes I think your character should be able to put on anything he/she wants to. This is a video game after all, it's supossed to be all fun and games, so let people be a little whacky if they want to.

Besides Bethesda got their "do whatever your want" label on Skyrim, so they can't deny to do this... but they probably got better things to do anyway... like making hats out of skulls.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:18 am

Meh, it'd be cool idea, problem would be I find some clothes, and go "Hey I could wear these."Next thing you know my Argonian is the laughing stock fo the entire town for wearing a skirt adn a pop top.

How is that a problem? You're the one who put them on. If you think it looks silly, don't wear it.

Npc will wear it to if you have random generated ones. Sims 3 manages to create some npc with impressive bad taste like shorts and winter or dress jackets.

Gender specified clothes is nice for the programmers as they are select random ones and adjust automatically to npc. This is why Argonian females has briasts in Oblivion, the female clothing have it.
Yes more tops and bottoms would be better than full outfits, might also have skirts as an extra slot like in Morrowind.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:27 am

I have to agree with the OP! Let us wear what we want. Today it's pants, tomorrow it's skirts or whatever. That way everybody wins. :celebration:

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:17 pm

Right, seems to me that everyone who is disagreeing with this is only looking at one side of the argument, probably because most of us play male characters. Yes, men wearing dresses would maybe be quite comical and not right for Skyrim. But women shouldn't be forced into wearing dresses, just because they're women.

Say that to a redoran guard or an imperial templar...

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:24 pm

Say that to a redoran guard or an imperial templar...

Just saying on the face of it, it sounds quite comical. I'll admit I spent most of Morrowind flaunting a beautiful purple Legion skirt

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:48 am

Right, seems to me that everyone who is disagreeing with this is only looking at one side of the argument, probably because most of us play male characters. Yes, men wearing dresses would maybe be quite comical and not right for Skyrim. But women shouldn't be forced into wearing dresses, just because they're women.

One of the threads is a few weeks old, I think it quite reasonable to use that thread.

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:50 am

All of a sudden i'm wearing a Scottish Man's skirt and carrying a bagpipe around?

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:26 am

There was a similar topic like this a couple of days ago. And yes, I agree. I want my female characters to wear pants and my male characters to wear skirts.

makes it more likely that bethesda might see it

» Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:15 pm

i just thought of fable 2....i had a crossdressing character with girl hair/makeup and a dress yet he was buff. It was hilarious

» Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:18 am

i cant believe im saying this but i would like to see this as well. mostly because it would be kick ass to play with a roman soldiers outfit which is basically an armored dress.......er kilt.