Passage from East to West?

Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:29 pm

I'm planning to roleplay two concepts; and both need this info.

One will be a Brotherhood Outcast who split of from the main group because he had family the Mojave chapter. The second is I plan to roleplay a playthrough of FO3 and then continue that same Lone Wanderer in NV; scouting out the West out of interest, for the EBoS, and to escape her fame in the CW. Perhaps have had them drift around for a couple of years before hand to make things fit with the DLC (as it seems to be establishing at least a few years of prior backstory.) The latter idea calls to me each time I recieve the worn 10mm pistol and Armored Vault 101 jumpsuit thanks to getting the Vault pack.

Things is, I like to roleplay as close to the lore as possible.

Do we know how a journey from East to west is done? The conditions of land between? Factions potentially making the journey difficulty?

We know that the Outcasts were going to attempt it - though we never learn the fate of the expedition. If i'm not mistaken ED-I has also done it. Lyons went East; but that was a -long- time ago.

Information from lore buffs? I've played all the games but never memorized all the nuggets of info.
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Jessie Rae Brouillette
 
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:16 am

They walk, plain and simple.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:18 pm

Brotherhood walked.

Enclave may have flown part of the way (or all of the way if they were able to refuel). Otherwise they walked as well.

ED-E floated merrily along.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:54 am

Fair enough. There just seems to be such a great divide that I was picturing walls of different sorts. Raider bands the size of the Pitt set up in cities in the way. Walls of radiation (I blame STALKER for that thought). Other groups and factions building up.

Let me rephrase then; froma lore point of view, how dangerous would you see the journey as being for an individual or small group? And whats dangers aside from the obvious (raiders, raditation and mutations) would you see them encountering?
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:43 pm

Let me rephrase then; froma lore point of view, how dangerous would you see the journey as being for an individual or small group? And whats dangers aside from the obvious (raiders, raditation and mutations) would you see them encountering?


Its difficult to say, as we know nothing about the Enclave's journey, and all we know about the Brotherhood's trek was that they stopped for a quick sojourn in Pittsburg to wipe the place clean.

I'd imagine that wastleland-cross country travel is never easy, and I would imagine raiders, mutant animals and radiation would all be problems. Apparently though, the dangers are not enough to cause trouble or prevent travel for heavily armed and armoured groups.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:41 am

Fair enough. There just seems to be such a great divide that I was picturing walls of different sorts. Raider bands the size of the Pitt set up in cities in the way. Walls of radiation (I blame STALKER for that thought). Other groups and factions building up.

Let me rephrase then; froma lore point of view, how dangerous would you see the journey as being for an individual or small group? And whats dangers aside from the obvious (raiders, raditation and mutations) would you see them encountering?


On a dcale of 1 to 10? 100!

An individual would probabpy be killed but a small group could make it if they're well armed, well supplied, and lucky.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:51 am

Wiki says one of Lyons missions was to find the mid west bos and send them back west lol I m serious..............It says they were unsuccessful....... So they stopped off to look for mid west bos and went to the pit.

OP Read about fallout tactics. It took place in and around Chicago. Look at some of the stuff that was there. As for the rest of the journy you may run into some Legion out once you get out west. They are supposed to be pretty big.

Like the other guys said there has to raider types. Who knows what kind of creatures. There woul have to be some settlements out there too.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:48 pm

I'd imagine that wastleland-cross country travel is never easy, and I would imagine raiders, mutant animals and radiation would all be problems. Apparently though, the dangers are not enough to cause trouble or prevent travel for heavily armed and armoured groups.


You don't even need to be heavily armed. Harold made it to the CW just fine, and there's obviously trading going on between the two coasts.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:14 am

You don't even need to be heavily armed. Harold made it to the CW just fine, and there's obviously trading going on between the two coasts.


Hmm..yeah I forgot about Harold.

So cross country travel really isn't as difficult as we would assume.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:26 am

Don't forget that the Lyons BOS also has working portable fusion power now, thanks to Dr. Lee. For all we know they could be MacGyver'ing together electric powered vehicles. Those 2 ton trucks we see dotting the wastes, and the ones parked outside the Outcasts fort (if the outcasts and Lyons made up that is.) Swap out the engines and tires (there's decent tires to be found in select areas around DC.) Jury up a couple of working trucks, with a near infinite power source, armed with a turret mounted minigun and/or missle launcher; and that trek to re-establish contact with the core region just got a lot easier.

Now before you Lyons haters start up with, "Elder Lyons is a traitor, and needs to be shot!" Well now, I'm not so sure the Core Region elders would do that now. His methods may have been very unorthodox, but his results are undeniable. Portable fusion power, massive amounts of plasma weaponry and Mk II APA (and Hellfire) is now pouring in by the truck loads after the very successful campaign against the Enclave's mobile crawler, and don't forget they still have to sift thru the rubble of what used to be Raven Rock. After 3 years, the Scribes may very well have began the arduous process of rebuilding Prime. Depending on how much of the mobile crawlers production facilities were salvageable, L-BOS may also have very limited ability to produce new parts for their aging PA. Protector Casdin may hate Lyons' methods and overall mission, but he can certainly respect (if grudgingly) how much the L-BOS has accomplished. Atleast this is how I RP. Other views may vary...
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:22 pm

Don't forget that the Lyons BOS also has working portable fusion power now, thanks to Dr. Lee. For all we know they could be MacGyver'ing together electric powered vehicles. Those 2 ton trucks we see dotting the wastes, and the ones parked outside the Outcasts fort (if the outcasts and Lyons made up that is.) Swap out the engines and tires (there's decent tires to be found in select areas around DC.) Jury up a couple of working trucks, with a near infinite power source, armed with a turret mounted minigun and/or missle launcher; and that trek to re-establish contact with the core region just got a lot easier.


Where does it say that they have a portable fusion reactor?
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:40 am

Where does it say that they have a portable fusion reactor?

It's what Dr. Lee specialised in, and she was who helped Scribe whats-his-name solve the power issues with Prime (he said so himself.) Dr. Lee hinted that this was her fortay, when it came to science, when you ask her what she does at Rivet City (before finding James.) If not for her talent with this, Prime never would have went operational.

This is at least what I got out of it. I may have a good eye for detail, but I'm only human and sometimes miss things. I may very well be off on this idea.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:43 am

It's what Dr. Lee specialised in, and she was who helped Scribe whats-his-name solve the power issues with Prime (he said so himself.) Dr. Lee hinted that this was her fortay, when it came to science, when you ask her what she does at Rivet City (before finding James.) If not for her talent with this, Prime never would have went operational.

This is at least what I got out of it. I may have a good eye for detail, but I'm only human and sometimes miss things. I may very well be off on this idea.


Well she repaired Prime, that's different in comparison to a portable fusion generator, especially considering where it is now... Besides, if this one scientist can do it then I see little reason why the bulkmof the Brotherhood back West would face any particular problems on the same topic.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:27 pm

Optimus Prime was a joke in Fallout 3. Wasteland "Scientists" and resoucre strapped Brotherhood did something that the entire pre-war military, Mr.House, their wealth and resources of the whole pre-war USA could not do :rolleyes:
and how did they do it? Flash Bulbs and sensor modules! :facepalm: "Here's the problem, not enough wasteland crap!"
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:31 pm

They were making far strides in the field of portable fusion power over at Rivet City. The bulk of the projects there revolved around hydroponics, but it was specifically stated thru certain dialogue that they were also working with portable fusion power with great success. Now considering this knowledge was used in getting Prime up and stomping on small fleshy things, that would mean that at least this chapter's scribes had no such access to such information on the subject.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:53 am

Well it sometimes takes a little creative genius to make something work, as histories great innovators have shown, after all, didn't Hennig Brand discover phosphorus by complete accident?
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:53 am

Well it sometimes takes a little creative genius to make something work, as histories great innovators have shown, after all, didn't Hennig Brand discover phosphorus by complete accident?


Penicillin was also an accident.

Point is Mr.House is a genius and the people that came up with MFcells and AI ZAX computers. If they can't get it to work with the wealth and resoucres of the richest nation on earth. No wastelander should be able to fix it. At least not with Flash bulbs and senor modules.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:28 pm

So? Nazi Germany didn't manage to build an atomic bomb, they didn't even some close.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:19 pm

So? Nazi Germany didn't manage to build an atomic bomb, they didn't even some close.


Thats another debate and we can't get into it here. Many theories as to why they did not manage to make one. Having your nation bombed to crap and armies invading on three fronts. West, East and Italy and resistance groups were all major problems. All the best scientists went to America because the germans would have sent them to death camps. America was winning its war in the Fallout Universe.

I am a supporter of the idea Japan managed to make an atomic bomb but it was to late to use it.

Anyways, I still think its stupid that they managed to fix Prime with flash bulbs and sensor modules.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:22 pm

Excuse me, but this is the same Germany which invented Delta Wing Bombers, ballistic missiles, and about a million other things ahead of it's time, you'd think atomic weapons would be a mere bagatelle.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:57 pm

Anyways, I still think its stupid that they managed to fix Prime with flash bulbs and sensor modules.


Not fix Prime as a whole.

They just used those parts to repair a small part of Prime, his optics.

I agree though that how the Brotherhood just magically was able to fire up Prime and get him to obliterate the Enclave at the last possible second, was poor writing, they're many ways the battle for the purifier could have gone down and not involved a deus ex machina.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:45 pm

Excuse me, but this is the same Germany which invented Delta Wing Bombers, ballistic missiles, and about a million other things ahead of it's time, you'd think atomic weapons would be a mere bagatelle.


All that time spent making wonder weapons because their leader was bat crap crazy. Did not focus on one thing. Germans had no idea how to make an atomic bomb. Key reason why was because the people that theorised how to make one would have gone to deathcamps, Albert Einstein was on Hitler's "To Kill List."

Only place they could get hard water was in Norway and the resistants groups did great jobs at keeping them from getting enough. Allied Bombing levelled pretty much every major city in Europe. You are from the UK you should know that better then I. Having the Red Army bearing down on you at the same time the Allies from the other side. Access to the Oceans gone.

Germany had to focus its efforts more and more on making Tanks and just getting enough fuel for the damn things.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:43 am

Not fix Prime as a whole.

They just used those parts to repair a small part of Prime, his optics.

I agree though that how the Brotherhood just magically was able to fire up Prime and get him to obliterate the Enclave at the last possible second, was poor writing, they're many ways the battle for the purifier could have gone down and not involved a deus ex machina.


Wouldn't it have been a welcome change of pace if they just never got Prime working at all?
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:51 am

Well to be fair, the only source of Uranium at the time was in the Belgian Congo... So yeah it would have been tough, but still, the Nazis did http://gizmodo.com/#!5524604/real-%5Bcensored%5D-flying-nazi-soldiers-with-jet-packs, not to mention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserfall.
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Post » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:28 am

Wouldn't it have been a welcome change of pace if they just never got Prime working at all?


Or even that they were able to get him working, but either he quickly breaks down (since the scribe mentions that they haven't field tested him and are unsure if he will function properly) or that he is almost immediatly obliterated by Enclave air-power.
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