I'm sorry Obsidian, but this is truly sad. After waiting 2 months for a good patch (which I just downloaded) the game still has bugs. I have been trying to form an alliance between the Great Khans and the NCR, but thanks to the glitch I'm not given this option (Oh My Papa quest). With a game built off of choice you'd think this would be a priority. I was hoping to be able to finally finish it after the patch today, but now I am loosing faith that it will ever be fixed. I just hope to God that the next patch/Dead Money still won't be glitched.

It was said by the developers that you might need to restart a new game for some patch effects to take effect.

So the developers just expect everyone to start again? All the time people have spent so far is just supposed to be flushed down the toilet? They really expect me to start all over again just so I can buy a DLC off them? You have got to be kidding.

When soneone screws me over I don't just forgive and forget. There is absolutely no chance I will ever give any of my hard earned money to Bethesda or Obsidian again. This may not be a big deal to them , but then again, after coming to these forums it's clear that i'm not the only one that feels this way.