Release a big game ever few years and people simply forget about how buggy the initial released product was. They aren't ruining a reputation they never had, their games have always been pretty buggy at first.

I wish some of you whiners actually learned programming, so you could see for yourself just how damnably difficult it can be, especially with something on the scale of Skyrim.


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No one is saying its easy , but they should TEST there own product before putting it out, by the looks of it they didn't do that. I worked in IBM for 12 years and knew a lot of the programmers and systems they worked on. Making changes to programs, they knew themselves and didn't need to be told, that making a change or changes to one part of a program can have an effect on another part of it.

Again no one is saying its an easy thing to do , and as far as I can see no one is saying that, but at the same time they should have tested 1.02 before releasing it. Players who installed 1.02 found out these things within hours, the anger is not about who hard or easy programming is, its over the lack of testing before releasing the patch.

You do realize it is nearly impossible to fix every bug players will experience before release?

Im surprised they didnt even warn people on twitter. None of the official blogs mention it

Amen...

It's absolutely impossible to find and fix all possible bugs. That doesn't excuse shoddy process though.

Do you think they intented to have bugs? Also, do you know how hard it can be to fix certain bugs? For example, the no resistance bug, could have come through an unexpected conflict of several things, which are hidden in billions of lines of code.........

I haven't had anything update on me yet.. so I made a complete copy of the Skyrim folder and my Saves folder. If I have any problems with the patch myself I'll just copy back in the good stuff and turn off auto updates. I would suggest that anyone that hasn't updated and can make full back ups, do so.

how about dont recall this patch...but start working on the next patch?

I'm just wondering - if there are so many people that experience the same bugs, on the same console (Xbox).. then why don't I experience them?
Am I a little too glad for this game, or am I just not wearing my complaint-glasses?

i dont think they know how...?

At the very least, they should get a hotfix out to deal with the Resistance and Dragon bugs.



Luck maybe. Or some are triggered by doing things ina certain way. I've suffered a few bugs mysel;f, but like you I've not suffered a lot of the major ones that are being reported.

Is the PC patch out yet?

Are you a pirate?

edit: woop, got my first star

Why would he be?

The PC patch is supposed to be released today too. No sign of it yet.

Oh, I thought Steam already distributed the patch.

I can't check at the moment.

I do have met some minor bugs - but nothing that have made me rant like hell. This game is freakin' awesome and I can play it like I want to. I have no complaints! Yeah - it freezes sometimes, but saving so now and then kind of solves that problem, until Beth solves that. So, I don't see a purpose in ranting unless I meet a bug that makes me handicapped in playing this game..

HUGE FAKE!!! Backwards flying dragons!! FAKE!!! Look at the video.! It's a small dragon flying like a butterfly. Didn't see it!?

No it doesn't but honestly from my experiences Bethesda games have been good enough in terms of bugs on release. Reading these forums I realize people either don't understand the shear amount of work that goes into this game and fixing glitches or they are over reacting. Sure there are a some people who truly are having problems but most posts I see hear are just whining for the sake of whining.

My 2 cents:

To everyone who is saying "They should've not released it until it was ready!" If the bugs are that big of a deal for you, you can always simply not play it until they are fixed and stop complaining about it. If you were willing to wait an extra three months while BS polished the game, why can't you wait that 3 months anymore?

Yes they released the game with bugs, oh well, at this point in time just assume the bugs are a way of playing, maybe make a new game where you don't rely 100% on magic resistance, or figure out a new way to play your game where you are better and stronger and don't need the magic resistance, or possibly go explore a different aspect of the game while you wait, maybe wander the wilderness searching for every possibly ingredient you can find.

All I'm asking is for the love of god stop complaining about something that you obviously know they are already working to fix. Its not like they're going to read your post either, they're probably trying to fix the problem, plus I don't think anyone would want to listen to this argument and idiocy constantly criticizing their hard work and years of effort because of a few errant lines of code that don't play nice together or what have you.

The Forbidden legend

Quest is simply not working for me anymore, I've been into 2 out of 3 caves or whatever, and the third one says I need a key to enter, but there is no key, and arrow is simply standing above the gate...

Any help would be appreciated.

That may be true but they are still a business as as such need to act professionally by doing something like - oh communicating with us at the minimum? That is what is wrong with this industry nowadays and [censored] LOVE to make all kinds of excuses for a lot of inexcusable things. This is why these games come out in such unfinished states because they know that they can get away with it and that their fans will love them anyways!

Do you think that YOUR boss would accept that kind of work ethic out of you? I should think not! He/she would probably fire you as they are in the business to make money and if you aren't producing, then you sadly are of no use to them. THAT is the way it is, why do gaming companies get to make excuses for poor product/testing/lazy porting?

Most people here seem to expect either too much or too little from the Bethesda team.

Yes, making a game like this is hard, putting a patch out through a 3rd party device makes it more of a nightmare. Agreed.

The smallish bugs that I have encountered so far are to be expected, anyone expecting to pay 60$ for a game of this magnitude and have millions play it for hundreds of hours each without finding any mistakes at all is being unreasonable. That being said, a screw up that completely takes out a part of the game (IE: resistances from this latest patch) is a pretty glaring mistake.

Even with it being such a horrible screw up I'm not the type to judge so quickly, rant, rave, and threaten like so many others on this thread. I understand that anyone from individuals to large corporations can make "boo-boos".... it happens. However Bethesda will be judged harshly based on how they react to the news, a fix by the end of the day and all will be forgotten. If it takes a week or longer there could be some major fallout (lolwordplaylol) from this.

I also believe they need a better PR department (whether that be more people, more positions, or entirely new positions), the more information you give out to your customer base the more likely that customer base will understand and forgive whatever problems arise.

1) Its a big deal because I bought the game. I didn't agree to give them 60 dollars for a future product.

2) Great, so I am glad you can decide what resists are actually needed for my character. Also, whats the point of searching things out if my saved game is going to become corrupt? At that point I am better off waiting for a patch. There are only so many times I can restart the game before going crazy.

3) Are they working on fixing it? Honestly, the state the ui released as was inexcusable for the pc. Have you seen the unofficial oblivion patch? Take a good look at all its fixes, things that were never addressed by Beth, and tell me you still have blind faith