"This game is broken beyond belief!"
"S T F U noob! 1.2 will fix all this so stop crying!"
"1.2 didn't fix a thing of the real bugs! You can't be serious!"
"S T F U noob! 1.3 will fix all this so stop crying!"
"1.3 didn't fix a thing of the real bugs! You can't be serious!"
"S T F U noob! 1.4 will fix all this so stop crying!"


Wondering where the number will stop when people realize that Bethesda didn't even fix major bugs in Oblivion, Morrorwind, Daggerfall and Arena after years?

I don't really care all that much, I didn't expect them to fix anything particularly worthwhile. Though the 'rare' this and 'occasional' that just looks pathetic imo. It's supposed to be patch notes, not a PR exercise.

Yes and you as Bethesda could also release Fallout 4 and a teaser trailer for TES VI within a couple weeks time. You better get busy. :sadvaultboy:

I'm happy for you. Just realize there are other players that aren't that lucky. In my case (PC user), I could not use a bow for 4 days because during installation the game assigned letters to the wrong keys.

So, glad your game runs flawlessly - enjoy it. While others try to play through issues we had not counted on.

Spend a couple of hours in the Hardware/Software section for all 3 platforms and look at the problems people are having.

And why is it that the other game company, the one with the big MMO and 12 million users, can put out a game that runs "flawlessly" on almost all players' computers.

That's true they didn't and you make a good point. As you may recall the Unofficial Oblivion Patch was arguably the best mod ever made for Oblivion. I always imagined everyone used it because of how much it fixed. I expect the same for Skyrim. I think those that haven't been around to know how Bethesda does their thing will complain more.

I still stick with my earlier post too. Weak patch. I would have done more, Stern!

will be lydia s bug fixed ??

I want to be able to decorate my house without my wife/companion picking everything up for me. plus the decoration bug that just lets everything fall on the floor.

It's nothing to do with video drivers: displaying something in magenta is the default behaviour if the texture can't be loaded, which tends to happen once the game's memory management routines start to malfunction. This has been an ongoing problem since at least Oblivion and has been the cause of countless CTDs.

Your expectations were not reasonable. The patch is just fine for the time they had to put it together.

Would it be snarky of me to say that they've had over five years to fix the memory bug? It would've been nice if they'd spent the intervening time rewriting the bits of the game engine that have been very widely reported and demonstrated as being broken.

Your acting like a spoiled teenage white girl. Look at ALL the damn [censored] they fixed. Yeah, sorry they couldnt fixed EVERYTHING you hoped for, but it doesnt take 3 seconds to create patches. It takes a long ass time. And if they would have tried to fix EVERYTHING in the game, it would have taken so long, that by the time they are done, people will have already finished their play throughs. They wanted to get it out quick. :shakehead:

Of all the whining topics, yours is the worst

Hey OP stop complaining im learning to be a QA tester so I would be doing all the bug finding and reporting in the future and trust me its not easy to find all the bugs and recreate them and of course if you can't recreate them then its a lot of hard work for the programmer to find and fix the issue.

And what ever patch is done may be fixed OR if its a rare bug you can assume its fixed when it turns out its not and creates another bug/glitch somewhere else.

Now stop being a big cry baby learn to be patient.

I saw the purple texture once in 35 hours of play. It was on the Dawnstar guards the first time I went there, and I was like "Wow, these guys are...different. Must be a fairly fruity town, this one." And then I realized it was probably a texture problem, lol. I restarted and it was fixed :shrug:

That's what stack traces and error handling are for.And that's what automated regression testing is for.

QA takes time, but it's not like it's a black art. No matter how much you gussy it up, considering how many quest & performance bugs there are, this is a lacklustre patch.

Omg! The update ain't even out and already some of you guys are complaining about it!! Some of you make me laugh!!
Just trade in your or sell your copy already please guys!! I and many others are enjoying skyrim tremendously, some of you clearly are not so do youself and us a favor, stop playing thus stop whining and get rid of your copy of skyrim
Thank you!

I can't believe they didn't fix the shadows and made some performance optimizations.

Hopefully they did something about this and this is just not the complete list of fixes.

Well maybe they want to get the minor things out the way while they work on the much harder bugs. Think about how many bugs have been discovered now try finding them again (If no videos/pictures are provided by the community) then fix the problem.

Then have it retested if it works great if not then its back to the fixing stage now imagine that new fix just created another glitch/bug somewhere else in the game. QA testing takes more than 2 weeks for larger fixes which are not in the OP which then provides the answer for the bigger fixes being absent.

Its because they are still try to find/fix them.

Also you can use the techniques you mentioned but you still need to use humans to vertify the fixes depending on the bug. If its a quest thing then you can use software to load and save and repeat if its fighting a dragon then a human would more than likely be used to test.

Except that it can't be traded in or sold on because it's now locked to the owner's Steam account.

I'm really not sure that the numerous comments accusing people of "whining", "crying" (and, shudder, "QQing") are exactly helpful, but there is a delightful irony.

Exactly. Finally, some sense. Criticism has no place in the video game industry. Everyone should stick to their space invaders box and be glad of it!

They are unlikely to ever address those "points".

Because those being problems are a matter of opinion. And if you change it for one persons opinion then you may ruin the game for another person.

Patches will likely fix bugs, not gameplay tweaks.

As I said, most of the important bugs will already have been found, reported and prioritised in house before the game was released. Plus, users aren't supposed to be good at reporting issues. Users are valuable because of their numbers and their domain knowledge. Nice, comprehensive bug reports are what testers are for and well formed and useful error reporting/logging are what developers are for.



Properly designed code should be resistant to unintended regression, and continuous integration & regression test suites should ensure that any bug-feedback loop is small enough that you can still pump out fixes with a decent degree of confidence.



It's because they've been prioritised lower. If a bug exists in the actual codebase (as opposed to a driver bug) then it absolutely shouldn't take that much time to locate and debug it.



Verifying a fix is probably done manually, but it's still a trivial task. "Quest A set to stage 010, Quest B set to stage 075, do I get the dialogue options to continue either quest? Yes. Next Bug."

does this "Fixed issue where textures would not properly upgrade when installed to drive (Xbox 360)" also mean that the people whom have the texture issue playing off the disk get a fix too? Just curious?

Big companies like Bethesda never balance their game after release so game balancing is left to modders like in Oblivion.

Hi.
I'm concerned about these two:


I did not get the patch yet, and am pondering if its worth it but from the 2 above are these fixed, or better, i mean is the mouse look a little faster?

Are the controls still backwards and farked up?

I really dont understand why they couldn't just implement the control setup from Oblivion, and then add the 2 handed thing they now have to it.
Why recreate something that wasn't broke to begin with?

Last but not least, not sure if its my cpu, but when running across the country side, entering i think a new zone? all the trees, buildings ect, are like no detail, or simply are not there,
til like 1-2 min later when they finally load.

I have a AMD 2.6 single core cpu, with Geforce GTX 285, 2g ram, 750 watt psu, win xp 32bit, is that loading because of my cpu? or is anyone else getting it too?