Patching Process, be patient

Post » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:54 pm

Here is a link to a pretty good explanation of the patching process for video games. This was posted by Treyarch staff about Call of Duty, but I imagine it is relevant for other developers.

http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=346952&sid=igbr826p48eli7mllhe9frhn82

Basically says it takes 2 weeks minimum just to collect all the information they need to start the patching process.

Another week for internal testing of the patch, then another week to submit to Sony/Microsoft for approval, then a few days to release it.

These time frames are estimates, and could well take longer. I figure Crytek wouldn't announce anything on here until they have completed the internal testing stage, or maybe not until they are about to release the patch.

That makes sense because you don't want to announce something and then have to change your announcement because new problems have arisen. It would look unprofessional.

Alot of people are wanting them to just fix their problem NOW, like lag/matchmaking, but there are probably numerous issues that people are having, and Crytek wants to patch as many problems as they can with one patch.

As much as i want a patch yesterday, realistically we probably have another 2-3 weeks before we hear anything on a major patch.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:38 pm

i would just like a response from them saying ya were working on one then i would be happy as a fat kid with cake
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:26 am

i would just like a response from them saying ya were working on one then i would be happy as a fat kid with cake
They can't make an announcement saying they are working on one until they are working on one.

Cry-Tom: "When there is a significant update about the PS3 platform i will post a sticky/announcement thread in this forum. Until then the team is currently collecting all known issues that need to be addressed."


http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=16559&p=196632#p196632

He says When, not if, so we can assume there will be a patch at some time
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:33 am

Nice Sunny.

Educate this kids.
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Noraima Vega
 
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:42 am

your wrong about this. treyarch are bunch of liars. homefront did 3 patches in 10 days. treyarch hasn't fixed crap, and never will. what these company's need to figure out is, peer to peer svcks. always has, always will. they are to cheap to spend the hundreds of millions they make and use dedicated servers. that's why they all use peer to peer. it's very inexpensive on a whole. I run 15 down, 2.5 up solid. I rarely have more than 2 bars, and need a clip most of the time to kill. if the company's really gave a damn about how their games play, they would quit with the world connections. keep it in the US for US players, and they wouldn't have to fix them. this is just another could be great game that will always have issues. they don't care, they made their money.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:36 pm

Sorry wall of text, I'm wrong about what exactly???

Well when a game runs as poorly as Homefront out of the box, and when the first patch didn't fix the problem, yeah you can expect 3 patches in a small amount of time. More patches dopesn't necessarily mean they are doing a better job at supporting their game.

I played Homefront for a week before Crysis came out and I never once heard a voice of someone from my country. either americans or a language i couldn't understand. Alwasy 1 red bar.

Treyarch released two patches within a few days of each other because the first one made everything worse.

Thats why I respect Crytek taking their time to do it right, instead of doing it fast
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:41 am

What he is saying is that there is no way that they could have released three patches in 10 days with the amount of time that Treyarch said it takes to release a patch. And who cares how long it takes? There hasn't been more than two, or three posts made by CryTom, and none of them have been helpful. PC already had a patch, and from what I've heard, they patched the Xbox, as well.

Now, if it takes the same amount of time for the patch process for both systems, how did Xbox get theirs, before a single patch was even announced for PS3? You're going to call that supportive? Pfft. That is called being ignorant, if anything.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:18 pm

The link is to a GUIDE to how the patching process works. its not the rule for EVERY patch of EVERY game.

If you bothered reading what was in the link, you would know that in an emergency patches can be pushed through faster than this. SUch as the state that Homefront servers were in on release.

There are more issues on the PC, and PC is their base so you can expect more attention there

Xbox patch did not address matchmaking or lag issues, and the Xbox system has more in commoon with PC, so its natural that they would receive a similar patch.

Problem is people don't bother really reading other people's posts on here properly
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Post » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:34 pm

The link is to a GUIDE to how the patching process works. its not the rule for EVERY patch of EVERY game.

If you bothered reading what was in the link, you would know that in an emergency patches can be pushed through faster than this. SUch as the state that Homefront servers were in on release.

There are more issues on the PC, and PC is their base so you can expect more attention there

Xbox patch did not address matchmaking or lag issues, and the Xbox system has more in commoon with PC, so its natural that they would receive a similar patch.

Problem is people don't bother really reading other people's posts on here properly

False. If they're going to release an "emergency" patch, they should have done it on every console, considering this game is as terrible as they come as far as connections go. I didn't have to read the thread that you put up, because you're contradicting yourself.

You're saying that the patch takes a long time, but that it doesn't have to take a long time. Think about that, and tell me that it makes sense. Why can't you just admit that they've left us stranded, with no answers, or patches to fix this game? I don't care how similar the 360 is, to the PC, they should've released an "emergency" patch for the PS3, as well. Am I wrong?

They just don't care, bottom line.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:49 am

The link is to a GUIDE to how the patching process works. its not the rule for EVERY patch of EVERY game.

If you bothered reading what was in the link, you would know that in an emergency patches can be pushed through faster than this. SUch as the state that Homefront servers were in on release.

There are more issues on the PC, and PC is their base so you can expect more attention there

Xbox patch did not address matchmaking or lag issues, and the Xbox system has more in commoon with PC, so its natural that they would receive a similar patch.

Problem is people don't bother really reading other people's posts on here properly

False. If they're going to release an "emergency" patch, they should have done it on every console, considering this game is as terrible as they come as far as connections go. I didn't have to read the thread that you put up, because you're contradicting yourself.

You're saying that the patch takes a long time, but that it doesn't have to take a long time. Think about that, and tell me that it makes sense. Why can't you just admit that they've left us stranded, with no answers, or patches to fix this game? I don't care how similar the 360 is, to the PC, they should've released an "emergency" patch for the PS3, as well. Am I wrong?

They just don't care, bottom line.
Yeah ur wrong. You don't read before you reply.

I made a simple thread showing what happens for a typical patch update, that it doesn't happen over night. I can't understand how people (trolls) can object to it. Yes in some circumstances a patch can be pushed through faster. You would know this if you READ MY FIRST POST. Its not a contradiction.

I'll say it again for you: its a guide to a typical patch update, it doesn't encompass every patch update for every game.

I and alot of people are enjoying the game, so its not an emergency for PS3. According to people on the PC forum there was a significant problem with hackers/cheaters which lead to a patch to combat that. Thats what the emergency was. Why would they release a patch for a problem that doesn't exist on PS3??


I don't know wot ur arguing for. Are you saying you know better about what happens when developers make a patch update? WHat is ur experience in the field of game development?

You admitted you can't be bothered reading my post/link, you just want to shout and scream like a troll
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:39 am

I'll paTroll my thread.

it's just simple information.

not simple enough for sum tho
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:17 am

well thats it. you have proven to me that your a complete ass kisser. you can read read J.D's post on black ops, and you think you know what a patch is. I have played with 2 people on multiple occasions, who have played with J.D. he is a frikken liar. last time they played, he ensured them of a patch very soon.{they are friends i guess} that was 2 months ago, no patch. that game is garbage, and so is treyarch.

I am glad you dont seem to have issue's from the first day on. most of do. as far as homefront is concerned. they
have dedicated servers. one bar on that game is still a better connection than this game with three bars.

What most people should understand is, all these games are fixable, they just dont do it. MW2 had major issues upon release. took some time, but they fixed it. that is bar none the best running fps on the market. i have not had lag or connection issues in months. game is old, but yet in less than 2 weeks they fixed the hacking issue as well. runs smooth as silk. so why after 5 months is blackops still a broken pile of crap? because J.D. is a liar and they dont care. they made their billion $'s.

so in closing Sunny, quit thinking your a superstar of knowledge on game patching. if i knew you personally, i would shake your hand on a 100$ bet that this game will never be fixed. and when i say fixed, i mean 3-4 bars for everyone. it will never happen. when you understand that its all about the benjamins, you will understand why crytom and the staff are svcking off microsoft. this was a pc game, pc runs the worst and xbox runs the best. do the math genious.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:48 am

"I made a simple thread showing what happens for a typical patch update, that it doesn't happen over night. I can't understand how people (trolls) can object to it. Yes in some circumstances a patch can be pushed through faster. You would know this if you READ MY FIRST POST. Its not a contradiction.

I'll say it again for you: its a guide to a typical patch update, it doesn't encompass every patch update for every game."


Contradicted yourself, yet again. This time, in one paragraph. You've just claimed, yet again, that the patching process doesn't happen very fast, but it can. C'mon dude, stop being a complete idiot, please?

Also, if it's a guide for a typical patch, that "doesn't encompass every patch update for every game." Then why the hell did you pull that guide from Treyarch's website, as they are not the ones that made Crysis 2? Think before you post. You're making yourself out to be a total tool.

There is nothing that is right with this game, so far. Multiplayer games rely on solid P2P, or dedicated servers. This game doesn't have either one. They have a terrible P2P system that gives the host full connection, and everyone else is hanging in there by a thread.
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Contradicted yourself, yet again. This time, in one paragraph. You've just claimed, yet again, that the patching process doesn't happen very fast, but it can. C'mon dude, stop being a complete idiot, please?

Also, if it's a guide for a typical patch, that "doesn't encompass every patch update for every game." Then why the hell did you pull that guide from Treyarch's website, as they are not the ones that made Crysis 2? Think before you post. You're making yourself out to be a total tool.

There is nothing that is right with this game, so far. Multiplayer games rely on solid P2P, or dedicated servers. This game doesn't have either one. They have a terrible P2P system that gives the host full connection, and everyone else is hanging in there by a thread.

You are about the most unintelligent people I have ever encountered on a forum, and you still can't read properly.

One more time: PATCHES ARE DIFFERENT SIZES, FIXING DIFFERENT ISSUES, THEY TAKE DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO COMPLETE, what I typed was a GUIDE TO THE PATCHING PROCESS, not a literal description of EVERY PATCH EVER MADE YOU DUMB ****.

Here is a simple metaphor (look it up in the dictionary) :

Me: It takes about 2-5 minutes for the average person to take a s h i t, some times it can take longer if you have diarrhoea , sometimes it can be shorter if you are in a hurry.

You: You just contradicted yourself, you said a s h i t takes 2 mins, but that also it can take shorter, you are contradicting yourself

You're the tool
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:51 am

Lol. Read what you're typing, just one more time.

First, and foremost, you said that I was the "most unintelligent person that you've ever encountered." However, there is a spell check built into these forums, and you still can't figure out how to spell some of the words that you're trying to type. That = ignorance.

Also, that little "metaphor" that you used, isn't at all relevant at all. I agree, patches do take time, and consideration. However, the other two platforms have received a speedy patch, to get things up and running the way they should be. Why didn't the PS3? Because the all mighty Crytek is working on an amazing patch for the PS3? NO. They're ignoring us completely, and fixing their other versions of the game.

They could have made a patch for the PS3, as well. As the game plays right now, they do need one of those "emergency" patches that you had mentioned in a previous post. You're just one of those fanboys that had already committed to this game, so now, you're stuck. You can't agree with me, because you'll look like a fool. However, continuing to respond to me, you're making yourself look like a big fool, anyway.

You might as well just sit down, with your terrible game, and get killed a lot, unless you're host, that is. The game is riddled with flaws, and should have been patched with the other consoles.

Also, as far as Homefront goes, the game had a sloppy release due to the fact that their servers were over packed. The game wasn't in an unplayable state, as this game is. They didn't even need to patch the game to fix it. They just added more servers. Get your facts straight.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:10 am

Lol at people who can't argue the point, but attack grammar. Like i care that much if i have a spelling error

Responding to idiots in my own thread makes me a fool? Yah prob right, considering talking to you is more painful than a conversation with someone with downe syndrome.

But don't worry, im done trying to teach you to read, your parents should have done that
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:37 am

Thanks for posting this information. Most people on this forum just don't understand how hard it can be to develop games these days. Its not like you can make a game over night, and then release it.

Patching the game is also very difficult, in fact some might say its harder than developing the game it's self. This is why patching takes so long, and I wish that people would show a little respect and understanding of this patching process and Crytek's position.

Also lets not forget about how the economy is, although the video game industry is booming, patching and maintaining a game costs a lot of money.

I challenge anyone who is being abusive towards CryTek to make a patch, since you all know how it works. Go ahead and try, I bet you'll find it is quite difficult.

Now I am not saying that there isn't any issues with the game. However I don't have to be abusive, I understand and respect CryTek's position in this case. I am also willing to wait.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:15 am

Sunny and illage.
Lets just skip the patch. Its out and again sunny your wrong. 3 days. Hum!!!
Its you and people like you who need to quit kissing theis asses and get upset. All of us should be screaming bloody murder. We shouldnt have to put up with this crap on EVERY damn game. Developers are greedy and release games that are broken, and they know it. We keep letting them off the hook. A class action suit on one of these companys would do incredible things for the customer. Maybe you enjoy paying 60$ for a broken game. I dont.
I have 12 online fps. The only one that actually works well is mw2. Dudes, thats $660 for games that work like ass. And you defend these developers. Yes i have great internet. 20 dwn, 5 up. So, quit defending these jerks and put your foot down like the rest of us.
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:46 am

u think they made the patch in 3 days?

dum dum de dum dum

law suite pfffffffttttttttt ha ha ha farkin kids
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:06 am

well this turned into the worst thread ever didn't it
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:07 am

no i dont think they made a patch in 3 days dumbass. my point is, they were working on a patch before release. which means exactly what i said. they released a broken game. you really are a f#&@ing idiot. and furthermore, most of their crap patch doesnt work.
ok next. my brother is a lawyer. a class action suit against any of these companys for complete refunds would be a slam dunk. the problem is money. your talking 250-300 thousand at minimum. so keep your asskissing mouth shut when you dont have a clue what your talking about.
next. posting a schedule for a different game by a different company really shows how ignorant you are. especially when treyarch still has a broken game. no you say. ask the 400-500 thousand on ps3 alone that cant and wont play it anymore. yes, the first week of release there was a solid 900,000 online. now, lucky to see 400000. so ask the masses brain surgeon.
next. so i will repeat myself. asskissers like you are why companies are getting away with this. anyone who supports these developers for constantly selling broken products is a complete fool. as long as they keep getting support from tools like you, they will keep doing it. what dont you understand about that?
next. i said before. mw2 runs pretty much flawless for everyone in games. with a hiccup every now and then. the technology is there, and works. so why dont they fix games like homefront, blackops, crysis ? they dont want to is why. they made there money and they are not going to spend it on this game now. yeah, they will do stupid little patches that dont work, just like 1.02. it keeps people hopeful and happy. their made money is now going to another games process. if you dont see this, then open your fricken eyes!!!!!
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Post » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:25 am

Ya right the patch was "thrown up" as a responce to the beta/demo version
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