A "Peace" mod so my 5 year old can play too. : V - Skyrim

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:04 am

I kinda understand where the OP is comming from..

My 4 year old nephew loves to watch me play, he points out all things that I sometimes over look like the gigantic remains of a mudcrab near Whitesun *I thought it was a rock*
My problem however is whenever he spots a dragon all I hear is "shoot him up the bum" this comes from his first encounter with a dragon when I was in sneak mode!!
More embarrissing though was when his mother asked what he'd been doing and he loudly announced looking a naked ladies bottoms.. *I have since stopped looting everything from female corpses when he's in the same room"

So Id love a mod that allows me to let my nephew wonder the land exploring and pointing out the sights not high on my priority list though as I can tell he will be a gamer as decapitations do not faze him he just laughs and yells "look at that head fly"

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 am

If the guy was giving his kid a video game as a babysitter to avoid talking to her, that would be a problem. Since apparently he will be sitting with her, talking to her, etc. as she plays then it is no different from playing with wooden blocks with her, in my opinion. Turning off combat AI means there should not be anything too scary for her to come across.

Developmental issues start to arise when you have a kid sitting passively staring at a screen, or when you let them access content that can make them anxious. So long as you are actively talking and teaching them, and they are not scared, it is all good.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:57 pm

It's nice for butch guys to maintain that Skyrim is a "mature" game but really, turn off the combat and it's a perfect kids toy. Don't kid yourselves that it's somehow "advlt"

'Tis a game. All my kids have enjoyed video games, and the simple fact that they played video games does not imply that's ALL they did or exclude the fact that they did other things also. Posters should stick to answering questions rather than making nonsensical observations on things they cannot fathom, observe, or relate to.

IMO natch

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 am

Get your kids some child toys so they will have something to nostalgia over when they grow up.

I nostalgia over Gameboy Pokemon and SNES Mario. The only 'toys" I ever used were Legos.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:07 pm

Hey I understand. My 3-year (almost 4) old daughter loves to watch me walk around the world and she gets so excited every time I let her play with me. She actually sits down next to me and stays quiet (very hard for a 3 year old)! I pick flowers with her, mine some ores, rearrange my house, talk to other NPC's and makeup funny stories about why are they talking to me (she loves when I talk to the little kids) and explore 'Cleared' caves and dungeons. The thing she like the most is going inside the water and she absolutely loves waterfalls, I could spend an half an hour easily just wading in the water around the same place and she just watches in awe. I have several saves just for her where I have cleared all the baddies around areas, like Blackreach (one of her favorite ones because of the shiny mushrooms), that cave with a huge tree or other outside world areas with good vistas. She also likes going riding so much, her favorite horse is Shadowmere and she's always asking me to 'find' my horse and ride him.

Obviously, there are some downsides, like finding a dragon or other scary creature, but what I do is reload another save as soon as I hear/see it in the distance, and tell her we are going 'sleepy' and when we wake up, voila, new place.

For those that think this is 'bad' parenting or that the OP needs to spend more time with her daughter, they don't know what they are talking about. I spend quality time with my daughter doing many other activities but there's just something special about seeing a child's curious and happy look when you are sharing something you are passionate about.

I think there's a slight difference between having a child sit on your lap while you drive your character around (tightly observing and controlling the interaction) and someone asking for a mod so they could essentially allow the child to play by themselves.

It's not just a matter of the violence in game, which can easily be turned off through console command. There are a lot of inappropriate NPC conversations that trigger just from proximity. With you, since you're right there, you can turn down the volume, hit escape and go to another save, etc.

Call me cynical, but I distrust anyone asking for a mod to fix these things simply because it makes me feel like they're going to leave the child unattended with the game. I don't think that is appropriate for the above reason.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:04 am

LOL at the moralising of this forum

OP wants to share something with his child in a perfectly reasonable fashion. Even if the extent of her experiences result in her walking around Riverwood, standing on the river bank and looking at the fishes. All he wants is to know how to make the game more palatable for her.

This isnt the opportunity to jump on him for his assumed lack of parenting in other spheres, or that Skyrim cant be a child-friendly game because us mean ol'schooler RGPers say so.

Hell, Id use this as a great educational tool to explain mountains, snow, bartering, water flow, concepts of diversity, stars, plantlife and a whole host of other things that my mind could warp into real-world inferences.

As long as he is there as part of the exchange, its not a $60 baby-sitter :S.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:41 am

5 year olds are so boring now a days... i remember when i was 5.... Diablo 2, C&C Tiberian sun, Starcraft, and Warcraft 2.. .now those were some fun times..

Yeh I remember, playing in trees, making dens, physical toys, bikes, fields, the garden .... etc.

Hell, Id use this as a great educational tool to explain mountains, snow, bartering, water flow, concepts of diversity, stars, plantlife and a whole host of other things that my mind could warp into real-world inferences.

Outside? Feildtrips? and so on.

BTW I dont agree with this thread, I mean, lets be honest to scale down a game that is blatantly for a higher age is the most obvious thing. Its already mentioned that other games for children can have the same appeal, no moral bandwagon is needed.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:15 pm

Use the console command

TCAI

This toggles combat AI and should mean nothing will engage with anything else and thus you should see no fighting. A mod isn't needed for something that already exists within the command console as a single command.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:18 am

5 year olds should not be playing M rated games. Even I didn't. Just get your kid something more tame, or spend some time doing something else like read with her or run around outside.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:05 pm

5 year olds should not be playing M rated games. Even I didn't. Just get your kid something more tame, or spend some time doing something else like read with her or run around outside.

....it's almost as if you hadn't bothered to read the thread.....

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:19 pm

5 year olds should not be playing M rated games. Even I didn't. Just get your kid something more tame, or spend some time doing something else like read with her or run around outside.

+1

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:29 pm

As far as all the debate over whether a 5 year old should play this game or not I thought I covered that in the first post. -_-

I'm 35, have two kids, played video games all my life including the original mortal combat where I was ripping people's heads off with blood dripping from their exposed spine and I turned out fine. (Was an Army MP, got out got a degree in computer programming and now have a career as a 911 dispatcher, big house, wife, yadda yadda yadda...)

However when I was 5 we didn't have games this great looking. Like I said before WE DO PLAY OTHER GAMES and she has fun with them too.

Dude you hit the nail on the head. This is exactly why she loves to watch/play. Glad there's someone on here that actually has a child that enjoys the splendors this game has and why no Wii game can match the beauty. :foodndrink:

Some of us get it. My friends kids (8 &10 currently.) never used to play video games, until uncle wolfpup got them interested. (They started watch from 4 & 6.) Now their dad, who also never played video games is a video game junky, much to his wife's displeasure.

They both play Morrowind & Oblivion, the 10 year old likes to play with the construction kit even.

I think some people are a little too protective and treat kids like their way more fragile than they really are. These 2 kids are the smartest most well balanced and polite kids I've ever known.

When they started watching me, I'd stop, and explain to them that this is a video game. It's not real, and how violence in video games is one thing, but in the real world is not acceptable. (Short of defense.) They got it.

I realize not everyone agrees, but I feel if you just explain these things, most kids will understand.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:13 pm

....it's almost as if you hadn't bothered to read the thread.....

You, sir, are an ass.

+1

Would you believe I was raised by a bunch of bikers?

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:49 pm

I was letting my kids watch until my four year old shouted "SPILL HIS BLOOD!" while I was fighting some bandits.... Where the heck did he come up with "spill his blood"????

Anyway, after I was done LMAO, I told them they couldn't watch anymore.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:44 pm

5 year olds should not be playing M rated games. Even I didn't. Just get your kid something more tame, or spend some time doing something else like read with her or run around outside.

I see nothing wrong with this request, this isn't GTA, one of the major selling point of the Elder Scrolls series is mod-ability of the series so that the game (on PC at least) can be modified to the play-style of the player. Your response is that the game should be played in the way that it was designed but Bethesda have never expressed such a desire to limit their players, in fact they supply freedom in their games where most developers would needlessly limit their players.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:55 am

You, sir, are an ass.

...and you're a big fat poopypants.

See how this works?

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:46 am

Not sure if OP = serious or flame/troll bait...

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:23 pm

I was letting my kids watch until my four year old shouted "SPILL HIS BLOOD!" while I was fighting some bandits.... Where the heck did he come up with "spill his blood"????

Anyway, after I was done LMAO, I told them they couldn't watch anymore.

That just made me burst into laughter.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:43 am

I really do like the idea of letting my daughter (6) ride horses, pick flowers, make jewelry , and play "dress up".

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:26 pm

So did TCIA work? I'd love to hear more about your daughter playing this game. It sounds adorable.

And yeah that "sworded" video is pretty funny. "People don't like getting sworded..." D:

P.S. 90% of the people in this thread are goobers.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:34 am

...and you're a big fat poopypants.

See how this works?

You sound like a five year old, coincidentally.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:51 am

otaio

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:13 pm

I really do like the idea of letting my daughter (6) ride horses, pick flowers, make jewelry , and play "dress up".

I guess I could just equip "Pacify" in both hands and let her wander around Solitude. Doubt she'd figure out how to change spells or leave the city.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:57 pm

I fear a future world where cartoons with blood, gore, strong language, and six are considered as children's shows.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:33 pm

When I was five I probably would have loved exploring something like Skyrim with dad. As it was, the best game he had was King's Quest, which was http://www.mobygames.com/game/pc-booter/kings-quest/screenshots/gameShotId,140004/. (Note that the render of the well compared with the text description is an early example of the lore not matching what you see in the setting...) Anyway, those kinds of things were too hard for me to start up and play when I was five (too much text), so nobody had to worry about what I might get into until I was seven.

If he's playing with his daughter, she'll be fine. Making up lore for all the cranky enemies that don't do anything might even be quite amusing.