hello

i was wondering what race Pelinal Whitestrake is/was...i checked wiki but couldn't find anything

thank you

No such information.

Tried the Songs of Pelinal?

There isnt any specific information on what race pelinal was but it can be assumed he was not a elf, due to the fact he slaughted all elfs in his way and was known for being a champion for Men

He wasn't a mortal but Ada. Spirits don't have races. :glare:

oops :facepalm:.
I knew he was related to one of the nine but didnt think he was Ada. My bad

Kyne dropped a multifaceted red gem on Alessia's head, and it turned into a geometric figure that killed people.

The star-made knight.

If I had to guess which race he resembled, I'd guess Atmoran/Nord. This would've made him appear to be a large, powerfully built, fair-complected and haired Nede. Besides, you meet him in KOTN anyway, (or rather a ghostly echo of him). He definitely appears either Nedic or Nordic, probably Nedic though. He's too tall to be a breton and too white to be Yokudan (not that anyone though he was ).
Interpret the ghost thing however you want. I always saw it as the ghost of his humanity. His divinity got passed on.

Star = God,/Spirit in the sermons.

That it does.

He was a geometric shape, as was stated earlier, but his "ghost model" in KOTN used the appearance and voice of an Imperial male.

Then again, wasn't it said somewhere he was from the future or something? There were no true Imperials around at the time and his life likely predated the modern dialect, so him being an Imperial in a time before there were Imperials would heavily support his divine powers.

There were some discussion which evoqued him as a terminator- style atrficial being from the future.

In my opinoin, the terminator anology should only be considered in the psychological sense. Pelinal was as focused on killing elves as a terminator would to on killing its target.

It's an anology. When it came to combat, the man was a machine. There was no stopping him when he got on a roll. LOL.

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=827656&view=findpost&p=12033196

"Pelinal was and is an insane collective swarmfoam war-fractal from the future, you betcha." (MK)

I already read that when it was posted. I'm just saying I wouldn't call him a "robot" in the conventional sense. At least, not in the earthly sense of an soulless automaton. We see very clearly that Pelinal has/had a soul/human essence. I don't dispute that he was from the future, or that he was insane, or even a collective swarmfoam.

It was discussed in that thread, although I didn't say anything about it then, since you and duskweaver were waxing about the topic quite well on your own... I believe the swarmfoam references the fact that two ancestral spirits (Shor and Aka) were inside Pelinal as well as the spirits of all the previous human incarnations of Shor, which would make Pelinal a construct (read:robot) of the soul, rather than physical form. Like I said, not a robot in the conventional sense.

Star-made knight... astronach. hee hee hee

Right... so he's a construct and a geometric shape but he at least appeared human, outwardly, to even his closest companions. Several human body parts are alluded to, his head specifically, which was the last part of him to die.

Although even this may be metaphorical, and it may have been his helmet and not his head. Hell for all we know the guy may have been a magical diamond imprinted on the inside of an empty suit of armor...kind of like the concept of the younger brother from Fullmetal Alchemist, except replace the blood seal part with the diamond/soul/terminator battery.

Is it possible to say that Pelinal has an "origin"? Perhaps Pelinal had come into being at a time both before the Heartland Revolution, and much further from that point. I'd say that he is an infinite crusader.

But he's also a predecessor and a successor to others like him... except that he's the anomaly.
Edit: If he is an infinite crusader, it is because he is the anomaly- the Akatosh in him that lets him transcend time.

Maybe in body, but to that degree, he is also a successor to himself as well. He's an immortal spirit that may or may not be in existence at any given time.

Sounds like someone else we know. *cough*Lorkhan*cough*

Just another part of the war fractal swarmfoam...

from the future...

with cheese!

So he IS from the future.

I'm glad that BS has finally been cleared up for me.

http://www.hhcc.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/Back_to_the_Future.jpg

Akatosh is the god of Time, not linear time. The moth priests read the glyphs of possible futures and pasts.

At the same time, I sometimes wonder if MK is pulling our legs. It's not like he can legally alter things in TES without Bethesda's consent, given he isn't a Bethesda employee anymore.

But I'm not actually saying that he's wrong, I just got doubts.

As it stands, Pelinal Whitestrake is 100% MK's character. As far as we know, he is the only person credited with writing about him. It's not that MK has leased him from Bethesda, it is that Bethesda has the legal right to hijack him.

And before you mention the plug-in, the righteous warrior who fought for the glory of the Divines who didn't exist yet and called elves brothers was not Pelinal Whitestrake, he was the Divine Crusader. Big difference, apparently.

Bethesda has no obligation to go with any of the crazy stuff that MK says anymore. Besides, it's got to be enjoyable to be able to say anything and watch people argue over it, no matter how strange it is.

I'm under the impression that you just said... nothing.
Besides, of course, that puzzling refrain that is not quite charitable, like my hitherto unspoken suspicion that you in turn enjoy having all of us arguing in response to your... (see above)