I'm right there with you (In my case because I have an unhealthy affection for houses Dagoth and Telvanni,) and I dont entirely -like- how everyone just sweeps her under the rug because of Brand-shei's questline. She even talks as if her family -lives- in Morrowind proper, not necessarily on Solstheim (her remarks before entering Sarthaal -could- refer to the island's barrows, but unless the contemporary Dunmer refer to Solstheim as Morrowind now, which seems out of character, then she's probably referring to Vvardenfell or the mainland.)

Now now, dearies, don't complain. There was a http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1361197-pentannual-census-of-the-houses-of-morrowind-post-red-year-4e-166/page__view__findpost__p__20534060 posted quite shortly after the census went up. We know the jury's still out on the state of our fine fungal friends.

But...but..the telvanni need our love ;~;

The Telvanni need nothing from pitiful mortals

*Hugs Neloth*

Baladas is just tsundere.

You have given me a flash of inspiration.

Morrowind. Anime.

GENIUS, GENIUS I SAY! MAAAAD GENIUS, BUT GENIUS!

Vivec hentai?

Vivec and Molag Bal, sittin' in a tree...

They're one and the same. In the Nordic account of the Battle of Red Mountain, Nerevar rode into battle with Dumac Dwarfking and Alandro Sul against Dagoth-Ur and Lorkhan. Nowhere is Voryn Dagoth the man mentioned. The spirit of Dagoth Ur was bound to his master's heart when he fell, and was released into Alandro when he tampered with it, creating a mad over-soul that took the name of Dagoth Ur and the appearance of Nerevar's fallen friend.

Might be a branch house vs. main house kinda thing. All that's left of the original Head Family is Brand-shei, but there are still cousins & (former?) retainers. A mouth may not be of the family, but speaks for the family, and would consider themselves Telvanni.

That was what I was getting from the readings.

Aww yeah, House Sotha sort of rides again.

As far as I know, this is not supported by any source.

Cool census data. Did they use magic or quill and ink, I wonder... the cost savings could've been huge. What's the opportunity cost of the Telvanni not bothering to pronounce themselves in the census, since someone brought up the political effect of their presence?

Something like the Velothiid cultural revival that I proposed. Schweet. I'm not sailing against this wind.

Heritage doesn't matter to the Telvanni, even if Brand-shei returned to Morrowind and claimed he was the last of the Telvanni family most of the Telvanni wouldn't really care.

It's extrapolated from the Secret Song of Wulfharth Ash-King. In it, Dagoth Ur was already a traitor working with Shor and the Nords, and the role traditionally played in history by Voryn Dagoth as Nerevar's right-hand man is filled by Alandro Sul. In the Dagoth Ur that we meet, with the three-eyed visage of Sul and the memories of brotherhood with Nerevar, I think it's a fusion of the two entities.

Have we discerned the author yet? Because


sounds like a name Hotty Cooteratti (who remains absent in this thread) would conjure up, to me. If you know what I'm sayin'.

i love that I'm not the only person who's seen that video.

If this was posted using a ghost account, the author may have posted here in his usual one since, pretending that it's new to him.

Our dear Haughty Hawtty was my first thought, yes. But who really cares?

I wouldn't had believed this had i not just read it. Good grief. However, i disagree with your assessment Alandro Sul, slayer of Wulfharth(!!), bearer of the wraithmail, Shield-thane of Nerevar, Immortal son of Azura(!!!) is part of Dagoth Ur.

In your favor though, the Urshilaku camp and burial caverns, home of the ancestor bow, -is- in close proximity to Kogoruhn, and likely within the ancient land holdings of House Dagoth.

After reading the secret song I am ever more confused. If as it claims, Nerevar is the son of Boethiah, and Alandro Sul is son of Azura, who the [NUMMIT] is the incarnate? I understood our character in Morrowind to be an agent of Azura...could this mean we're actually the incarnate of Alandro Sul, not Nerevar??

So many questions...

So it literally says that Voryn Dagoth and Alandro Sul are different people.

I don't recall any source that proofs that Alandro had three eyes.


Nerevar had many friends. And they all would have memories of brotherhood and friendsip with Nerevar. Alandro, Voryn, Vivec, Almalexia, Sotha Sil, even Dumalakatoshor Dumac the Dwarf-Orc. Wouldn't you say they all are one entity?


Beautiful titles, nothing more. But... "Sons and daughters of" should be read as associates of/associated with, especially insofar as this association was a conscious choice.

Nice.

Sorry I have so little else to contribute. This is Monkey Truth par excellence.

As we see from this text, Sharmat was probably oversoul.. A False-Talos for Dunmeri, "pawn of the Aggregate"?. But not Voryn Dagoth.. After disappearance of Lorkhan's Heart the souls sundered again, this allowed Vivec to summon his lover's soul.
Also, Alandro Sul could be the real son of Azura, because in "Magne-Ge Pantheon" a son of Dawn Goddess is mentioned. As a true deity. =)