This from the guy who is constantly telling others what to do, and what games to (not) play.

Pretty rich. I feel ill for some reason.

I paid for the game, I can say what I want about it, to anyone I please.

Why not both?

Ew.

Mods make it known what sort of threads are or are not acceptable by closing the problem ones. I doubt we'll have to wait long for this one.

You popcorn casual scrub.

"Smartfood" white cheddar popcorn is DOPE!

While I agree that it is kind of arrogant for every Tom, dike and Harry to think they know good game design, on the other end of the spectrum it's quite disconcerting when a game developer ignores actual good ideas. But the way you opened the thread, Enclaver, seems rather rude.

On the topic of Popcorn; gib buttery salted popcorn plox.

I doubt he outright lied, probably just misinformed... by a mile (just counted 29 vs 92... wow, not including Radiants BTW).

To be honest I sort of get why the OP might have thought that (haven't read the thread), FO3s quests felt rich and thick, FO4s by comparison feel a little weak at times, though theres a gem here and there.

No, i did not make a thread telling people to stop telling their opinions... i made one to tell them to stop acting like they know more about game development than an actual developer... stop twisting my words...

...which is just you deciding someone's crossed an imaginary line.

Well I think everyone who produce and sell something ( not only games ) , need feedback of his costumers. Sure, every single costumer does probably not know better then the producer, he can only state his own opinion. But feedback of many costumer can give the producer information's about how to make the product better.

Bethesda has said on numerous occasions that they want fan input. The new survival mode is a result of so many fans asking for a mode like this. They're still developing it, and I'm sure they're looking at the things people are saying about the details we already know. And I'm sure that they're taking them into account to at least some degree. Developers need fan input. Even if they're not going to take this input and update the game with it, it's information that could be valuable to them in later games.

Threads like this are more useless than suggestion threads. This is a forum for discussing Bethesda games. Why wouldn't people voice their opinions about what they want? If there's any place to do it and actually have it matter, that place is here. I get annoyed by some of it too...but it's pretty easy to solve this problem. Just don't read those threads. There are a lot of topics that are going to get repeated on here. That'll be the case with basically any video game. If it's a topic that you don't want to discuss, then don't discuss it. That doesn't mean that other people have to stop discussing it.

We used to have a lecturer who always told us negative feedback is a mile better than positive, since negatives (or at least thought out negatives) tend to give something to improve on, and you can't do much with positives. IE I agree with this.

Bethesda has never said they wanted people to act like they are better than them so your argument is invalid.

You made a thread complaining about people not complaining correctly. Is that better?

Let me "twist" some more of your words.

Remember your sage like advice to people with even minor problems in the game? Take it with the forum- "If you don't like this forum and it's community, don't post here"

Pretty simple, eh?

Really? That's your response?

How very insightful and well thought out.

Your post is quite confrontational and if worded in a better tone, you might not have gotten the flak you get now. For one thing, when people ask Bethesda of something or rage over something, it mirrors their dismay with the situation, and then they go on the boards with that feeling in their guts, and well, things get written in a heated moment. Having that in mind, setting yourself in their shoes, and try to discern what the core of the problem is, is much better, than "herp derp you don't get to say derpy derp, because this or that" It leads to nothing, other than more heated posts, and then a mod have to go "not again guys" thread closed....

You obviously don't like this forum and it's community so you should leave by your own flawed logic.

It is - but moaning just for the sake of moaning is terrible.


Problem is, at what point do you say "negative feedback" becomes "moaning for moaning's sake". Honest feedback can appear to be, or deteriorate into pure venting. Problem is you try to prevent one you severely limit or reduce the other. When that "line in the sand" can't be clearly defined in a way everyone can easily understand, you get people like Enclaver here who set themselves up as referee and make unofficial judgement calls that just result in angering more people.


If Enclaver can do it, so can anyone else. You'd have anarchy if forum rules were decided by it's members.

So instead of people telling Bethesda what to do, you're telling people what to do ?

So by that logic, you'd go to a restaurant and let the chef select the food since they know what's best to eat because they cook it ?

Alternatively there may be people out there who know more about playing games than the people who develop them.

Bethesda has never said it wanted you to tell other people what they can and can't post in the forums, so your reason for this thread is invalid.......

Thanks for calling me stupid,,, Youre a really nice person... not that i care considering i know i am legues smarter than you will ever be...

Can we talk about popcorn again?

i agree enclaver

I am just asking when simple thing is it so hard for to just play a game and have fun with it?

Thank you.