You are demonizing people for making money on Youtube basically. I was listening to this guy just the other night talk about how he switched over from a corporate job to doing Youtube full-time. He said that all he did was fire people that shouldn't have been fired. Just because they wanted to trim a little fat on their stock reports. When he had that job it was seen as honorable and his Youtube money is seen as somehow a scam by most people. That's because most people work jobs like that and they are invested in that structure. It's just insane. People can't just be happy with their own choices. They have to demonize people who take a different path in life.

I honestly can't believe you mentioned Total Biscuit. I rarely watch his videos. I just look at him when there is a PC port I hear rumblings about. He really seems to be the only one doing those sort of videos and he is pretty thorough. I give him all the credit in the world until someone else comes along and fills his shoes cause right now there doesn't seem to be anyone else doing what he's doing.

If that guy was really just doing it for the money I don't think he would still be doing it. He has like what? A year left to live?

They never said that Perk XP was tied to unlocking new levels of the PERK. That's what Matty speculated. They just said that you gain general XP from using the PERKS. So they might just mean that you gain general XP from using the Science! perk at the work bench.

Little late to the party, but I feel the same way as they do mostly, and I'd say it's less about "demonizing people for making money on Youtube" and more being displeased with the practice of clickbait. In this case, it's speculation (usually not presented as such) and empty "news articles" or videos that literally have no new information, nothing new to present, and exist soley to parasitically feed off of the excitement surrounding a game (or movie, or book, or any other thing) to try and up their own adstream revenue. Hell, we even have "reaction videos" now, because who doesn't love watching someone else be excited about what they're seeing on their computer screen? These literally tell us nothing except "I'm excited about this product. Therefore you should be excited about this product!" Game journalism already has an overabundance of meaningless articles as it is, as the slow drip-feed of information in the digital age is a convenient way for a publisher to market their game without actually spending money on marketing. Pete Hines sends out a single tweet, and a hundred bloggers and youtubers start posting about it, inundating the web with posts that at best tell us something all of us already knew, or throw out theories in the hope that their claims will drive up hits and subscriptions, banking that either they're right and people will flock to them even further, or that everyone will forget by the time the game comes out and it's revealed that the person had no idea what they were talking about.

Even on the forums this can be annoying, though not as bad considering its localized and nobody as fas as I can tell is seeking to financially profit from it. I remember I started completely disregarding gkk7z when he posted his "completed perk chart" as if it was confirmed, which was especially ridiculous considering it's bound to have new perks we haven't seen before, and as such his statements that he had identified them and their effects just came across as utter nonsense.

As for people like TotalBiscuit and Yahtzee, I'm not sure why they'd have been brought into this (not by you, by Kiralyn2000). For one thing, I've never seen these kind of clickbait videos or articles from them. Everything seems to be reviews and opinion pieces, not speculation or regurgitation of what we already know. That's partially because they've already established their brands, and it's also because they actually have connections in the game development community, which helps get them actual news to report rather than quoting a tweet we all saw (at least people like Total Biscuit and Jim Sterling do this for their videos. I've never seen Yahtzee write/make anything that would require it, since he doesn't seem to post news stories).

Making money from reviews, opinion pieces, etc. all that is fine to me. People can use Youtube for actual news stories if they want to as well, but they need to be actual news stories. Speculation articles/videos that exist to fill the gap in the news cycle, generate hits and money for somebody by feeding off my interest in a subject while giving me absolutely nothing of value in return is not something that I feel particularly positive towards.

Edit: Also, just in case you hadn't heard, it seems that TotalBiscuit's cancer is in remission, so he's likely to fully recover.

Wasn't really thinking about clickbait when I mentioned them, just my general dislike for how various Youtube/Internet Big Names get treated as if everything they say is handed down from god (the way the WoW forumites fawned over every word of Biscuit's back when I was playing was annoying).

May just all be a big luddite thing - I just don't get the whole "Internet Personality" thing, or Twitch, or how everything's turned into "how can I make a buck off this." Meh, whatever. Getting to old for this crap.

Oh, I completely understand that. For the life of me, I can't tell how Angry Joe ever became something people actually listened to. Partially because the angry reviewer persona has always come off as lazy and unentertaining to me.

In fairness, to actually make a living on youtube you have to be damn good. I'm a liitle curious what the metrics are on that, and how many youtubers could actually use that as their sole income and stay above the poverty line.

Of course, there are always peeps with dollar signs in their eyes, and they *think* it's easy money. But they're idiots. I was "color commentary" on a twitch stream for a short time... before we started, he wondered if we'd ever gwt huge and start making money. I bowed out, and I think he gave up really quickly after that.

(I still want to do a Twitch stream of Daggerfall one day and just make fun of it the whole. More streamers/LPers need to take a MST3K approach to gaming)

So there's no real character builds? Eventually everyone will have max special/perks....

lol yea, in 400 hours of play time... or more.

This article is confused, as they already explained how you raise perks back around Gamescom. And it's simple, you level up and check to see if you have a high enough special to buy a perk, if you don't you can raise the special by a point to get closer to getting said perk. If you've seen the leaked footage there is no experience bar next to any of the perks, you do not need to 'level' any perk. The writer(s) are misunderstanding what they meant by 275 separate xp levels. I read that to mean there are a total of 275 levels to gain, so a total of 275 perks/Special to gain.

Which is what the discussion is on. We know some levels of perks give xp bonuses such as hacking and lockpicking did. Naturally the combat perks you gain xp as you're killing stuff.

Crafting seems it'd be rather exploitable, sort of like the smithing in Skyrim can get perks easily with it.

I listen to them for entertainment, not for factual information. I won't doubt that they've done some research, surely more than I have, so I'll listen to their opinion on things ... I just don't take it all as gospel. Granted these guys do feed off anything they can find to make a vid for. I get that. I understand that. I don't mind since I'm just listening to entertain myself, not to start flaming debates on anything. They're doing something they want to do and may even get some money out of it. I'm listening cause I want to for entertainment. I'm not forced to watch or to believe them.

They certainly aren't Johnny-come-latelies. They've been talking about the series long before the recent wave of interest due to the Fallout 4.

They were brought into this solely because they make money on Youtube. Remission just means he has at least another 5 years. I could never be jealous of someone in that situation.

It's fun to speculate and if you are subscribed to these people then you are savy enough to understand that it is just speculation. They lay out everything for you so that anyone who follows gaming could see that it's just speculation.

They probably found that people were spending a lot of time at the work bench building turrets and weapons without actually getting any XP for doing that. That means that in all that time you aren't progressing. So it's good that if I spend all that time going back and forth searching for items to make new weapons that I at least get some XP for doing that.

If your perk XP isn't tied to unlocking perks at all then you probably won't have any incentive to exploit the work bench. Plus, everything you needed to build iron daggers was readily available in Skyrim. In Fallout 4 you might be expected to re-purpose a lot of guns you have made to make different types of guns instead of making hundreds of the same type of gun to sell over and over again.

I don't know, I think the one over complicaing things might be you. If you have a system where each perk levels up as you use it, it's actually quite simple. Like Skyrim, your level would not be based on how many things you kill. It would be an aggregate of all your perk levels. As you accumulate enough xp or levels in your perks it grants you an overall character level. When that happens your given a new perk point to distribute. You use that point to unlock another line of perks. That new line provides you with another avenue to gain xp and increase your level. With that, using multiple perks at the same time, if you even can, becomes a non-issue. You simply gain xp in every perk line you're using. If your action involves the use of three perks, you get xp in all three perks.