What is your opinion on how the Aurbis breaks down in terms of Anu and Padomay? This is a rough chart of how I view it: http://i.imgur.com/C3oUv.png
It'll be interesting to see whether there's any consensus about some of the ones that aren't well known, or whether everybody has varied opinions.

PS. In my chart, purple means they move towards their opposite nature. Also, I use Aedra and Daedra in a Altmeri sense of "our ancestors" and "not our ancestors", so the Daedra category is not strictly those who didn't assist in making Mundus.

Just curious, why is Numidium associated with Alduin in your chart?

So would you consider changing that chart since Kirkbride stated that http://www.imperial-library.info/ForumArchives/AmuletAmulet.html?

The Hunt the Amaranth threads have convinced me that if you chased down every relationship from one being to the next you'd end up with a huge circle with everybody in it. The threads would look like a big ball of spaghetti, or as Kirkbride put it: "a magic ball of sentient schizophrenia."

Hmm, a proper venn diagram ought to have Anu and Padomay as the first two circles, and the part where they overlap as the Aurbis. I don't get why Sheogorath encompasses all of the daedra. Ysmir should overlap with Talos. I'm not convinced that Talos is a balance of Anu/Padomay either (though I can see the argument). Why is Numidium overlapping with Alduin? I don't think the daedra/men = padomaic and aedra/elves = anuic is that cut and dried either. There's a little of both in everyone.

I love that chart! No idea *exactly* how accurate it is, but it does seem at least pretty close, and that's a very easy, streamlined graphical depiction of it!

I personally believe that Sheogorath had to proceed the other Padomaic deities going by the theory that every entity in the Aurbis is a smaller part of Anu and Padomay. I would argue that the reason that Sheogorath appears in the moment that Lorkhan is killed in Aldmeri myth is because Sheogorath is half of Lorkhan, although I imagine if any of the lore writers were thinking that, it was never decided on to the point of ever having a chance of becoming canon. The reason I included Mer and Man in each was not because of any tendency with individuals, but the general nature of their society, Mer are more concerned with wider events and maintaining a certain statis quo (EG. the strict culture of the Altmer, or the highly retrospective Dunmer culture) whereas Men have a much more shortsighted view of things and strive for change within their society. I was not linking the existence of Numidium to Alduin, as much as their role. Numidium is a time driven entity that often breaks, or ends linear time, and Alduin represents the end of time, although their connection is probably not as strong as say Ysmir/Lorkhan (what is it, three Numidium related Dragon Breaks?).



Well my main problem with making these charts is they can't demonstrate some of my more extreme theories which are the reason these don't line up with what most of you would make (I, for example, believe that Shor is a separate entity from Lorkhan and that Talos existed well before Hjati, Wulfharth, or Artcus)

According to this chart, all Men are Daedra, and all Daedra are Sheogorath. What?

So this Aurbis is encompasses everything, even Anu and Pahdome?

I'm sorry to say it, but this chart is completely incorrect.

How are men part of Deadra?

And how is Alduin Numidium? How are all men Shezzarines? Why doesn't Talos overlap with anything when he should be human, Lorkhanic, Ysmir, and Shezzarine at the very least? Why are Anu and Padomay contained within the Aurbis? It's all wrong.

First glimpse: Ah okay, yeah I see, that makes sense.
A couple of minutes later: yeah... yes... wait... that's new to me. So is that. Wait, didn't I get that detail right? What is... but... this doesn't... how the hell...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf0yQbrY9Pw

MY BRAIN HURTS