Greetings all. I was thinking about Peryite, and wondering about his relationship to Jyg.

From UESP: "Taskmaster, is the Daedric Prince whose sphere is the ordering of the lowest orders of Oblivion"
Could this mean he was initially one of Jyg's underlings, tasked with bringing order to parts of Oblivion, but then rose into the status of Daedric Prince after? I mean, it doesn't make much sense how Jyg is the Prince of Order, and yet Peryite also holds order in high esteem (he even says "may order be in your life" or something to that effect to the PC IIRC).

No. Peryite's a dragon. Who else is a dragon in TES lore?

Interesting... The Underling idea is logical, it would also explain why the other princes feared him. Maybe he became more powerful than Peryite, and Peryite grew worried. Thus they created the Sheogorath Curse (sorry if this spoils anything).
But this is just speculation, if anyone finds anything concrete on this, then it would help.

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i always thought peryite was an underling to the other princes. he's the custodian.

I thought Peryite was related to pestilence... can't seem to find where I read that, though...

Peryite taking control of Jyggylag's realm while he was away might make sense. Although I'm not entirely sure how a daedra might ascend to princehood. I suppose in the same way the first ones did.

You assume Jyggalag is real and the story he related is real. What if it is a lie?

Anyway, "taskmaster" feels different from "neatfreak." I figured Peryite just sort of whipped people around like a slave master or an overseer. Peryite's Quest in TESIV doesn't even really make sense. His worshippers got stuck in a trance....? Okay... but what does that have to do with "order"?

Is this what you were referring to? -Imperial Library http://www.imperial-library.info/sheogoraths.shtml

I always thought of Peryite as the guy who has to tie up all the lose ends.

There is also a more in-game source, http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/on_oblivion.shtml, which says this about Peryite



I thought him as being more like the plaguebearers of warhammer. While highly diseased and filled to the bring with pestilence, they are also tasked with counting and documenting each and every pox, plague, pestilence, and disease in the Gardens of Nurgle. Quite simply, they have an impossible task, one that they do to "give meaning to their torturous state." Maybe, while being really OCD, he is also be involuntarily messy and is constantly trying to keep things "neat and tidy."

I believe its from http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_Oblivion


But other sources contradict this.



Akatosh of course. But how does Peryite relate to the God of Time?

It is said his form is to taunt Akatosh

Why would he taunt Akatosh? In my opinion, it would be pretty stupid to do that for no reason. It's probably because he's more of a Daedric caricature of him.

:shrug: I dunno, that's just what I read somewhere.

Because Akatosh also represents order.

Ok, here's the diffeence between Peryite and Jyg: Jyg order is static, while Peryite's is chaotic. Jyg, Akatosh and the other Anuic beings want to maintain the status quo while Peryite wants to re-order and re-arrange everything in a new order. He taunts Akatosh to challenge his established order in line with his sphere of creating a new order. Peryite is the Sinestro Corps and Jyg and Akatosh are the Green Lanterns.

for the record, that was a rhetorical question, like the one I made in my first post.

Akatosh is not the god of time.

What???

Either that's a bad joke or an attempt at being cryptic.

Yes he is.

As for Peryite, I always thought of his order as that kind of bureaucratic kind of order, cause, get it, bureaucracy is the pestilence of government.

And also, Daedra can choose their form. They don't have to appear as giant four-armed monstrosities every time. They can appear as tiny little children mounted on flaming ponies of the apocolypse.

I don't know if Jyggalag's order and the order of Akatosh would match up. As much as some like to flout the notion that Akatosh upholds the original order of the cosmos, the fact is that Akatosh intervened to re-order the cosmos, at least as relates to Mundus and Oblivion. Jyggalag's sense of natural order may be something more akin to Mundus in the Merethic era, or in The Dawn era. . . or it might be like nothing Mundus has ever encountered.

As to Peryite . . . ordreing the Lesser Daedra seems to be his tasks. . . I take this to mean, ordering as in aiding them in (or, depending on their alignments and dispositions, forcing them into) whatever forms and allegiances they will take after leaveing the Waters of Oblivion.

Great anology. While I think the underling idea did hold some weight. I think the important thing you mentioned is that there are two different types of order, the dynamic and static. But in fact, consider the Aedra and Daedra for what they truly are: stasis and change. ALL of the daedra are proponents of change; just look at their spheres. Whereas the Aedra are more towards preserving an order of sorts. Well played Mortazo.

-Hexon

I've always seen Peryite as akin to the Mafia. He keeps order among the dregs of Oblivion by going and beating up Tony the Gorganzolla salesman because Tony was gonna try and do something harmful against the Family.

the dragon is his avatar.. not himself

And to the OP... You've quite a point...

But I don't really belief the whole jyggalag = Sheogorath story... I still guess that the Champion of Cyrodiil went nuts and fell for Sheoth's curse of the realm...

IT would be strange of the COC would resist the end of the golden road...

of course the CoC went crazy. He went so crazy he mantled the god of the crazies.

anyway, I've always though of peryite as more of a manager then anything, while jyg is more like a mathmatician who wants to make the universe fit his equation of predicting everything in the universe.

...The avatar is a representation of himself...and how he chooses to represent himself....

....one has to wonder why you even said that....