'Pet' Peeve

Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:12 am

Literally...

In trying out the sorcerer last beta, I found it to be pretty capable, but one thing irked me over and over, and it was pretty much instant. At first, I was baffled, confused, figured I may have missed something (which I still think and hope I did), then became increasingly frustrated...

Where are the abilities to command a pet? There should be obvious ones: Attack, Stay, Come Here being the most blatantly apparent ones... and there are really GOOD reasons for having these, not just 'because every other game has those commands for pets!' Single player games don't need them, they have save points, are way more forgiving, are single player, etc etc... but MMO environment NEEDS them, or else you are letting this extra bit of AI wander around freely doing its own thing.

Several times in past MMO's I have seen guilds/raids give a mandate of "No Summons/Hirelings/Pets/Mercs" type thing, and that was in games where they HAD commands, and the reasons ranged from : 'confused the fight by making the NPC jerk around destroying aggro-control' to 'aggroing random enemies and bringing them to the party' to 'bad pathing caused it to accidentally aggro the entire tower and bring 50 enemies on top of us!!'

AI is never perfect, I don't ask it to be... but that is why we have extra protection against it. Those commands ARE the protections. Yes, it also allows more precise control allowing specific strategies, but that's part of the game as well. Several times (and I only made it to 5th lvl with my sorc due to this) my pet 'disappeared' down the beach SOMEWHERE... had no idea if he was alive, dead, fighting, taking a vacation from a mean and demanding master, dunno... but at least a few times I would stand there looking around in circles (not moving) and a monster would appear down the beach and start charging me... why? because my pet somehow thought that guy was a danger and charged off after him... even though he was WAY away from me. Then when my pet died, that enemy came after ME. So, apparently, the AI has not progressed all that well in some respects.

Another case, I made an archer/summoner... but found my pet would only charge the enemy AFTER I shot it... no command to attack... if there are commands somewhere, let me know, I would sacrifice a slot on my bar for an attack command... So, I ended up tanking every fight that an enemy made it to me, due to no commands...

I think ESO could REALLY use having pet commands, not just for the extra strategy, but also to help keep pets from causing 'other' problems that NEED to not happen...

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Steve Bates
 
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Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:39 am

Best way to tell ZOS is to use the /feedback command.

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Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:13 am

Which only works in-game... and since that means only during beta, and beta only happens every so often... not many chances to do so, and also not much chance for them to fix it... if I was on PTS I could do so, would do so, and they would have plenty of time to do something, test it, do something else, test it, etc etc...

Only being on the Beta (read: preview/stress test) server, makes it much less likely that anything will actually get done (also, did not know about /feedback command, and last Beta was my FIRST beta with them... doesn't leave a whole lot of room to attempt to get things fixed or done)

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Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:41 am

It's a known issue that has been discussed at length in this forum. Hopefully ZOS will address it.

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Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:09 pm

Good, because it is REALLY dumb to think these sorcerers have the power and capability to force a Daedra from their home plane and into our service... but we have no power to tell them what to do once they are here? (storyline/lore reasoning)

Dumb that they would overlook obvious class-ruining behavior (in other games, like EQ, the enchanter NEVER used pets due to them being built the exact same way, and thus VERY few enchanters were ever played, they already lost a lot of their power right off the bat... same here, sorc's will be less popular because in effect they only have 2 class ability lines, the third is for all intents and purposes- Broken)

/sigh

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Post » Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:23 pm

never had a pet but that is ridiculous.. Glad I didn't go that spec now.


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