Thank you for the support.

Nah, I think I'll save the "spirit of RPG" trash for when I'm in a thread on a forum for an RPG.



I didn't say I liked the idea, but there is nothing inherently wrong with it (other than my RP perspective that an NPC should have their own leanings, for character building purposes). Unless the idea of RP options in an RPG does concern you, in which case RPGs might not really be your cup of tea.



I think what I like about this community is it can be so bat [censored] insane.

Dozens of threads about whether or not it is an RPG based solely on mechanics and how visible the dice rolling is, but then with a hop, skip and a jump over to another thread with people saying they would like to see this that or the other and we can have people saying "you want RP in your RPG? What do you think this is, the Sims? Fable? That what they teach you in that sissy school? You want to be able to buy a house, decorate it/interact with NPCs/etc? Psssh, that's not what RPGs are about."

Totally, gloriously bat [censored] insane! Never change Skyrim general discussion, you do entertain me so.

hey aside from catching butterflies to make alchemy potions making a cool character is the most depth that you are going to get from this game.

Misery loves company, so the miserable come to mingle and ensure no one doesn't know how unhappy they are about things..



I agree - NPC interaction is an important part of an RPG. There are a lot of RPGs (and other games) that give good companions (personality wise) and try to make relationships between characters something that adds to the game if you want to engage in that option.

I like Bethesda has taken the first steps towards implementing that for people that don't want to play lone wolves. There is work to be done, but it is a start.

Evolve the game. Right. If you want to 'flesh out' an imaginary relationship with an NPC that's your deal. You could ask for that in an TES scrolls game. Or you could just play The Sims.

You want to know what would be game evolving? Having the slightest motivation to finish one of the main plot points because I don't honestly care whether Hans n Frans Stormcloak or Lucius Cornellius Imperillus rule the province of Skyrim.

The farthest I got in that quest was the meeting at Hrothgar because I HAD to in order to get through a glitched quest. TES games aren't about forming 'relationships' with NPCs and I think it's a stupid direction to take a videogame that's only ever going to do something like that half-assed anyway.

You don't think I have a right to say that I don't appreciate something that's been put into the game that I've paid for that I don't need, don't want, and won't ever use? While something that should be interesting and integral to the game's plot is pointless and inconsequential?

TES are going wrong because Bethesda is trying to incorporate too much of what modder's are doing, like companion content and crafting, and leaving out what were essentially core components of the game like spellcrafting and balanced skill choice. That's what I don't like.

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They just had to take time out of their day of dressing up a fantasy warrior and slaying dragons to rip on people who want to dress their fantasy spouses in different clothing.

It's pretty [censored] hilarious, really.



RPGs aren't all about stats and skills.

Ha! Your more concerned with useless aspects than you are with playing the game. You fall back on the its a RPG excuse even though not all are created equal. Instead of trying to role play everything that is not in the game, try playing a nord or a orc. And just maybe The Elder Scrolls is not really your cup of tea so get off your high horse.

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Uuugh - why do you think people interested in being able to interact more with NPCs boils down to wanting digital undies and virtual dirty talk? Never mind mods have done that before and 9 times out of ten they are as awfully juvenile as you'd expect.

Have you played some of the other classic RPGs, pseudo-RPGs etc that allow you to have a party, follower, crew etc and make an effort to let you talk to them and have them have something to say back?

In BGII you had heaps of possible companions, only four of which were romance options (and like real life some of those could be viewed as bad ideas/work at it kind of romances). And for romance options there was no sixy undies or dirty talk (Vircona aside)

And symptomatic? You do know RPGs have been around for decades don't you? And while plenty of DnD sessions boiled down to murderhobos hacking and slashing there way to god-hood there were lots with.... wait for it, you might want to sit down, this could come as a shock.... RP.

Yes, it is symptomatic of the change people want of RPGs in modern times - that they can do more than just kill stuff* :facepalm:


* If not there are some total conversions to Doom games that turn them into hack and slash as opposed to run and gun. Lord knows RPGs need to go in that direction, right?

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