Yeah I think it should be available for everyone. It's not very useful, and it's plausible that a Nanosuit user would be able to stomp regardless. Having it as a perk is just a waste--the only people who have it are those who use standard loadouts, and even then they don't tend to use it very often.

Yeah I think it should be available for everyone. It's not very useful, and it's plausible that a Nanosuit user would be able to stomp regardless. Having it as a perk is just a waste--the only people who have it are those who use standard loadouts, and even then they don't tend to use it very often.

Plausible? It's completely irrelevant what is plausible. It's plausible for a nanosuit user to be able to carry two primary weapons, should we remove that perk too?

i agree, but nobody uses it anyways

I agree, make it a normal move instead of a perk. At first I didnt enter this thread because when I just skimmed my eyes across it I thought, oh its another thread saying to remove a move altogether, but I decided to actually read in on it and hey look it's exactly the request I was thinking of posting I wanna use the air stomp more and not be forced to have to enable it as a perk to use it.

Seeing Air Stomp 'more' would result in a lot of frustration for a huge amount of players. Playing crash site would become very annoying when 2 or 3 guys all airstomp down onto the crash site and wipe everyone out.

If you aren't stupid, shoot them before they hit the ground, time before they land is pretty long.

If you aren't stupid, shoot them before they hit the ground, time before they land is pretty long.
I've unlocked Airstomp III and have NEVER been shot out of the air so far; and have only done it a couple of times to others.

Either you're full of ****, or almost everyone in the game is stupid. But hey, whatever. If this **** actually happens I'd be happy to team stomp you on crash site.

It would be absolutely undefendable and is probably the reason it's NOT available to everyone.

^^ This guy sure likes to blow his own trumpet. Yes we know how **** UBER you feel you are at AirStomp - you can stop telling everyone now.

^^ This guy sure likes to blow his own trumpet. Yes we know how **** UBER you feel you are at AirStomp - you can stop telling everyone now.

Not really. Never have I said I'm some sort of uber Air Stomper.

The angle I was actually going for was that if I can do it then it's clearly nothing special, so saying shoot people out of the air is retarded when it rarely happens.

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I've unlocked Airstomp III and have NEVER been shot out of the air so far; and have only done it a couple of times to others.

If you aren't stupid, shoot them before they hit the ground, time before they land is pretty long.
I've unlocked Airstomp III and have NEVER been shot out of the air so far; and have only done it a couple of times to others.

Either you're full of ****, or almost everyone in the game is stupid. But hey, whatever. If this **** actually happens I'd be happy to team stomp you on crash site.

It would be absolutely undefendable and is probably the reason it's NOT available to everyone.

Well, I have Air Stomp II, and many people have shot me from the air, as I have them too, which is pretty easy. And it isn't undefendable, if you power jump before someone lands with Air Stomp, you won't die.

If you aren't stupid, shoot them before they hit the ground, time before they land is pretty long.
I've unlocked Airstomp III and have NEVER been shot out of the air so far; and have only done it a couple of times to others.

Either you're full of ****, or almost everyone in the game is stupid. But hey, whatever. If this **** actually happens I'd be happy to team stomp you on crash site.

It would be absolutely undefendable and is probably the reason it's NOT available to everyone.

Well, I have Air Stomp II, and many people have shot me from the air, as I have them too, which is pretty easy. And it isn't undefendable, if you power jump before someone lands with Air Stomp, you won't die.

Firstly, it IS possible to die despite powerjumping if the guy hits where you were standing, and secondly, if a team airstomps your crash site I doubt very much you could shoot or avoid up to 6 people.

Also, if you're being shot out of the air, you must be doing it wrong. You shouldn't run and jump at someone facing you. The way you should be doing it is cloaked, and transitioning to armour mode at the apex of your jump. That way nobody will ever shoot you before you land even if they are looking at you.

Firstly, it IS possible to die despite powerjumping if the guy hits where you were standing, and secondly, if a team airstomps your crash site I doubt very much you could shoot or avoid up to 6 people.[/quote]

I doubt that 6 people would simultaneously do Air Stomp, even if it is Crash Site. I guess you are right about cloaking and armoring up, but do you even benefit from armoring up while Air Stomping?

I doubt that 6 people would simultaneously do Air Stomp, even if it is Crash Site.
You could coordinate it if you have a squad set up. If everybody has the move available it would be incredibly easy to do. As it is me and my squad have effectively coordinated JAW/nade spam on Crash sites before strolling in and taking it. It would be even easier to get the same results with air stomp; especially seeing as the standup time has been reduced.

I guess you are right about cloaking and armoring up, but do you even benefit from armoring up while Air Stomping?
I have no idea if armour helps the power of the airstomp (I suspect not), but it's preferable to landing in default mode, and landing in cloak purportedly drains your energy, so it's the best option for me, and prevents me being shot before landing. Sometimes it also allows me to survive the standup.

If Cloak is active, when you start a jump, it will disengage automatically with no energy penalty when you begin an air stomp.
It pretty nice when your in predator mode. Because they never see it coming and you lose no energy.

However, if you cloak mid air and air stomp you lose it all or if you cloak during air stomp you lose energy. I hate when I do that by accident.

I never armor up during an air stomp because as far as I know it does not help. (PC here.) And I am cloaked when I am in route to target so I do not want to waste more energy when I have a auto shut-off.

But if you have 6 people to sync an attack, wouldn't it be a lot easier to just shoot whoever owns the CS instead of closing in and jumping all together? Some other guy could've just JAWed your whole squad during the stand up animation.

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But if you have 6 people to sync an attack, wouldn't it be a lot easier to just shoot whoever owns the CS instead of closing in and jumping all together? Some other guy could've just JAWed your whole squad during the stand up animation.

Sometimes yes, but on a few of the maps (evac zone included) there are convenient spaces to cloak around the crash site where you wouldn't be seen. The advantage of a 'teamstomp' would be that you wipe out everything in the area even if you can't see it, or if it is in armour mode.

..and getting JAWed would require someone to be alive to shoot the thing. Plus, it would only take out one of the players. The splash damage is low and it's too slow for you to fire again (with side pack).

EDIT: the maoin difference between 'teamstomping' and shooting everyone there is that the crash site holders have a chance to defend themselves when you're exchanging bullets. If you do it right, air stomp is undefendable. The only chance they have to kill you is after you land.. if you missed.

I think, that it would be more useful to throw a granade or use JAW , than stomp someone. Especially when you are playing crash site. So its obvious that the air stomp is a useless perk.

I think, that it would be more useful to throw a granade or use JAW , than stomp someone. Especially when you are playing crash site. So its obvious that the air stomp is a useless perk.
So wait, you're using subjective reasoning for an objective conclusion? Really?

Firstly, just like shooting, grenades/JAW can only hit places where you can see/aim. If the enemy is below you they are useless.

Secondly, a 'team stomp' would do more damage in a lower timeframe than any explosive weapon or gun, and most combinations of the two.

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I think, that it would be more useful to throw a granade or use JAW , than stomp someone. Especially when you are playing crash site. So its obvious that the air stomp is a useless perk.
So wait, you're using subjective reasoning for an objective conclusion? Really?

Firstly, just like shooting, grenades/JAW can only hit places where you can see/aim. If the enemy is below you they are useless.

Secondly, a 'team stomp' would do more damage in a lower timeframe than any explosive weapon or gun, and most combinations of the two.

I grenade/JAW/C4 people who are below me frequently in Crash Site. C4 deals more damage and has a bigger AoE than Air Stomp by the way.

Infact the optimal opportunity to use a JAW is when you have a height advantage.

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Combine the already excisting Air Stomp Perk with

Rank l - Improved jump duration,control and you can press jump to slow down your fall(think no fall damage).

Rank lll - Faster Air stomp Recovery.

an you will have a nice Perk.

As it is AirStomp is a horribly underused perk thats so situational its basically a wasted slot if you do use it.

Its awesome when its useful, but thats so rare it doesnt warrant the use of it. Making it available to everyone all the time would allow it to be used more often.