For me personaly pistol is just to finish an enemy when you have not time to reload and know that the enemy has low health...
I would say use of weapons would depend on a map Im playing and depending on the situation
if enemy is close and didn't see me then knife - primary

We are saying the same thing, I never said ineffective you put the word in my mouth i am saying it is not as effective and I never said people wont/cant do it I said it was a stupid idea.
I'm not quite sure what we are disagreeing on but whatev.

"I never said they would be more effective then heavier weapons I simply stated that they could be just as effective as those in the right hands with the right tactics"
I said this^ myself and as that seems to be your point this argument is over.

I AGREE with you, I am only saying that an smg or gun with heavier firepower will preform better than a pistol in the situation you laid out. And seeing as you never said that a machine pistol will preform better here I think were on the same page

respect, one hour off forum and - KABLAMM - a 2-page thread about completely guess-work weapon load-outs...

no offense guys, but ain't it a bit too hypothetical?

where're are PAX champs, maybe they can elaborate 'bout the feel of weaponry, what worked what killed...

Almost everything is hypothetical at this point, basing everything off of pure facts limits us to so few topics, I don't beleive that anyone has tried the scenarios mentioned in this thread because i dobut people waiting in line at PAX for 2 hours sat down and decided to run around with a pistol trying to get kills.

I don't think that saying Primary = stronger and Secondary = Weaker is an absolutely accurate guess.
Take TF2 for instance. The Medic has a Syringue gun as a Primary and a Medigun as a Secondary. Sure you can argument that the Primary is the combat weapon here, but the Medigun has the potential to be even more game changing than the Primary if used correctly in the right situations.
I'm guessing this will more or less be Brinks idea of Secondarys.
THere will be no Strong weapon with a weak weapon to boot, there will be two different weapons with two different applications or situations where they excell.
It's possible that the pistol will provide more mobility or that the Revolver will pack a bigger punch at the cost of less Rate of FIre.
The Primary/Secondary argument is also flawed because theoretically you can take two Pistols/Revolvers making that argument pointless B)

certainly we should not limit the topics. tho there no point of fussin' bout weapons we haven't shot. otherwise we could get out those dusty dice and turn this forum into a brink RPG board game. (does anybody recall the rpg scene from simon the sorcerer II ??)

Don't. We know you just want to have your knife handy. This is not MW2!

ummm
how about you press the switch weapons button and keep out your pistol?
...
and why are you guys getting so specific about what you're going to do? How do you know that while your playing you won't find something cooler?

No we know which body types will have certain guns.



Trust me I will always have my knife ready.

Alright sounds like we are on the same page finally. I thinks pistols will be deadly in close quarters because you pop a couple shots in someone to weaken them then knife them for the finishing blow. With a light this could be a really effective tactic because of there speed even at mid-range because could use the slide ability to slide in close while doing so shooting then pop up and knife. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out with the unique gaming mechanics Brink is throwing in the mix.

Why do I have my knife out?
Because I run faster with a knife, everyone runs faster with a knife out!
:P

I liked Wraiths idea of the slide then knife, i dont have any info on if you can melee while sliding but I hope you can, I wish Wraith or H0RSE had played the game so we could get a thorough anolysis.
I hope their is a fast gun swap ability because ill be running a shotgun pistol combo with my medium characters and going for the sweet boom-slide-knife kills.

With amount of acrobatics in this game, I wouldn't doubt the pistols usefulness.

-You can slide into someone and knock them on their ass
-Knife helps conserve ammo when you're up close and personal
-You can wall jump, vault and slide while shooting
-Chances are you can probably even knife people in mid- jump, vault, slide, etc.

It's not very practical, but if you can pull it off...you're operator of the year.

+1

I wish I could play it 2. There is a slide tackle in the game so that should help.

The underlined statement is incorrect. The class does not determine the weapons you can use, your build does. There is a light build, a medium build a heavy build.

Lights can use lightweight weapons (SMGs, short rifles) for primaries and sidearms for their secondaries (handguns, machine pistols, revolvers)

Mediums can use up to a medium weight weapon (shotguns, Assault rifles) as primaries and a lightweight weapon as a sidearm.

Heavies can use up to a heavy weapon as a primary (Mini guns/LMGs, Grenade launchers, rapid fire shotguns) and up to a medium weight weapon as a sidearm.

So thats right, if your a heavy medic, you can still use a mini gun. If your a light soldiers, you can use an SMG.

Also, its a machine pistol, so most likely its full auto.

I don't know if you will be able to use a pistol like a primary, so if you are a light, stick with your SMG/Rifle.



Edit: Awwww, ya'll beat me to it. :cryvaultboy:

There's more than one kind of pistol. I think there were 5 different kinds, actually. Standard pistol, machine pistol, revolver, ???, ???.

And I too would like it if I could use a handgun as a primary. However, I will reserve judgement on their effectiveness until more information on them has been obtained. :wink_smile:

As usual :spotted owl:

Maybe you should have read the replies 2. :wink_smile:

I'm fed up of people saying there's no sniping in the game, there IS. Just because the mechanics work differently and the rifle is called a light rifle doesn't mean it's not sniping, the fact is, you can scope a rifle, and shoot people with it, it's sniping...

Edit: I didn't read all the replies, I got bored...

Before people were talking about the pre-order pistols being better, this is not true. Same goes with the special soda can/arctactical (sp?) silencer.

The only preorder item that may or may not be better than another similar option is the green eye scope or w/e, if it has some vision-based bonus that was initially meant to be aesthetic, because actual bonuses are never happening on exclusive items.

Green tinted lenses probably make your vision worse when looking through a scope though. Idk how else it could give you an adv in a fight, other than better zoom or smaller fov change or less obstructed view.

I don't care too much though, the amazon one looks cool, usually paperbags on my face aren't my thing. I would prefer long metal hair (not literally), but scarecrow from batman is pretty creepy, so shame-filled paperbag it is. All they need now is pyramid head.

I'll play 5ish percent more resistance anyway.


On topic, you should be able to use a pistol as a primary, in fact you should be able to use two of them, even as a heavy. Games are made for fun and adrenaline, you get more of each when you are at the disadvantage and pull off a victory.