Ok, so here's the deal, no matter what my first character is going to be a Security Medic. I pre-ordered the game, so I got all the bonuses. The bonuses I'm going to use: Sloani face mask, Hockler machine pistol, Greeneye scope, and Arktactical silencer. My question is: Since the pistol is semi-auto and medics use light firearms, should I attach the scope and silencer to the pistol and use it as a primary weapon? That way I could use a normal SMG if the pistol runs out of ammo. On the other hand, I'm not sure what the clip size of the Hockler is, so I'm not sure if it's a reliable weapon as a primary. I need some opinions...

all the bonusses?
if you pre-order at one shop, you only get one bonus(just saying, i kinda lost you)

as for the guns, we don't know the statistics yet, and they're still being tweaked. so asking for opinions at this point...

lol wow thats alot of copies of brink

We got the DOOM Pack.

Which weapons you can use does not depend on the class you choose it depends on the body type you choose so you can use Heavy weapons as a Medic if you wished. It all depends on which body type you pick. If you play as a light medic then yes you will only have light and pistols available to use.

Oh well now I feel like an uber noob... :whistling: I guess I'll preorder through Steam for the Spec-ops... Well thanks guys... So the machine pistol with scope as a primary. Good Idea?

like i said, we don't know the stats, and they're still tweaking them anyway, speculating about weaponchoices should be postponed until the release date is close.
you can always speculate, but only then would i build on what i know

And allot of money....

Weapons are body type specific not class specific.

Alrighty then, so if I'm not mistaken, the Medium body type is a balanced mix of Heavy and Light. I'm guessing Light means more agile but can take less damage and is limited to medium weaponry. And then the Heavy would be slow but can take lots of damage and can use all weaponry. Do I have these right?

Close.

Lights can use light weapons (short rifle and SMG) as primary and must use pistol as primary.

Mediums can use assault rifles and shotguns as primary and light or below as secondary.

Heavies can use GL's and HMG and can use any med or lower as secondary.

I wish you had the read the info compendium and take a test before you posted
But on topic having a machine pistol as a primary is not a good idea as it will only act as a watered down smg, I would suggest a light assault rifle as a primary and a machine pistol as a secondary as a general loadout.

Rage: I mean really though why would you ever consider using a secondary as I primary, when I wake up I don't pour waffles on my syrup. Next time think before you post.
Now lets examine this thinking process:
Hmm a machine pistol as a primary
1.Less damage
2.Less accuracy
3.In general more useless
4.but hey it looks and sounds cool
3-1 home team wins.

Well what if I used a sniper as my primary then when I had to go revive someone or encounter enemies I could whip out the pistol as an effective secondary.

Thats what I said above but I guess no one reads my posts :sadvaultboy: . Power_Chao you should check out the Compendium will answer alot of questions you have about Brink and how things will work.

There is NO sniping in the game and seeing how pistols would be the secondary for lights you would probably be using some of the least powerful assault rifles, If your in the "sniping game pick medium with a smg for a secondary, to get a generally layout for the community's facts and opinions on the subject search sniping, recoil, light vs medium vs heavy, and read the body size and gun section of the compendium, many of the things you are suggesting are the same things wondered before certain info was known, not a bad thing but simply misinformed.

Pistol Secondaries are never as effective in firefights, go medium so you can have an smg as a second gun, as seen in videos pistols are used to finish off incapacitated enemies, I seriously doubt that early in the game people will be killing assault rifle users with machine pistols.

Remember NO sniping an NO ninjas

Well the light bolt rifle is the closest thing to a sniper rifle. As for pistols I see them as highly effective in conjunction with the knife.

There actually is sniper riffles in the game though they are not called that they are called ligh rifles and do not have the normal mechanics of a sniper rifle for example they do not do OHK even if you shoot them in the head. They will more or less be used to weaken enemies for friendlies to finish off.

Iono where you came to that conclusion. Pistols can be just as deadly as any other gun especially if you consider you have a knife in your off hand with one equipped. It all depends on the player using the gun. A good player can be just as deadly with a pistol as someone else is with an assault rifle. Again I think you are wrong there will be plenty off people rocking machine pistols, revolvers ect killing off people it wont be as difficult as you think you just have to play SMART (see what I did there :wink_smile: )

i dont think he knew about knifing, but if pistols did not have knives and there was no backstab I probably would never switch weapons, i see pistols as a last resort I use them when my primary runs out of ammo and Im pinnined so i cant pick up a weapon from a dead body, brink is such a fast pace game I assumme that by the time I can live long enough to run out ammo i will have devised a plan to escape.
I am afraid of the light bolt rifle, I can see a clan of rambo wanna bees running around trying to quick-scope heavies. I was never fond of snipers in games, Real life snipers are some of the most hardened and trained fighters out there, there hearing and vision are paramount to a normal persons and they are usual quite skilled in cqb with an rifle, video game snipers are usually nerdy 16 quickscopers that dont know what to do in a direct firefight, hardscopers rarely watch there back and the occasional rounded sniper I can't take seriously because I can counter snipe him.


Hmm just as effective as any other gun especialy because you have a knife in your hand, look at Wraiths wording and call back later,
There are sipers but they work differently, does it look like i can't read(don't answer that) I knew about the bolt action sniper, I actually posted a picture of it in a different topic, read what I said I said no sniping not no sniper rifles or even bolt action.

Wait a minute pistols not as effective as smgs, and yes as I said it does depend on the player, but like I said in my post I seriously doubt when people are first trying to mash together their classes at the beginning of the game people will be going around rocking revolvers and machine pistols and getting kills with them seeing as they have no experience playing the game.
/end rant

Its interesting since my original light operative set up was SMG and revolver secondary. After thinking about it I would rather have the light rifle with a machine pistol. The light rifle gives me good ranged ability and I can chase down and finish people off. If up close I want the machine pistol since I can also use the knife.

I took you for more of a backstab guy

Oh trust me I am. Still might just be easier to charge them from behind while unloading my machine pistol then as they turn slide past them and knife them. If you think I am going toe to toe with someone else with only a pistol your nuts.

I gues I was considering more of a firefight situation where the bolt action rifle would be less useful, how less idk but I assume an smg would be more suited for toe to toe combat, and you would be forced to whip out your secondary pistol as a light and pray. But I totally see where your coming from now.

What I was disagreeing with was gotchas statement that there will be people running around "rocking" revolvers and machine pistols, lights already have less health I dont see why you would voluntarily choose less firepower too but oh well.

You can disagree with me all you like because there will be people playing lights running around with revovlers and machine pistols and they will do just fine. Sure they may have less health but if your playing a light your using your advantages to get around that. Using your superior speed to flank behind enemies, taking the high ground ect to get in the best position to take someone out with the supposed in-effective fire power weapons as you make it seem. Just because they may have less fire power doesnt mean they are not dangerous and do not pose a threat. Like I said its all about how you use the tools given to you.

You can be stupid and run around with a machine pistol if you like but look me right in the computer monitor and type me that that they are more effective than an smg if used by the same person. Im not arguing that there will be people that can kill with them but if the devs do their job people will be doing that with an smg an not some op pistol.

But really are you telling me that using a machine pistol in this situation is better than an smg if you have the option to choose either. If so, you sir need a reality check, this isn't an opinion it's a hard fact that primaries have more firepower than secondaries, thats why they call it a primary and a secondary, not gun1 and gun 2 like some militia dr.suess reference.

To prove this I ask all who plan to use a machine pistols as a secondary if possible would they use an smg instead, base your answer of the merits of the gun not the knife even though that does skew the question a bit.
The knife shouldn't affect this argument seeing as Wraith mentioned the knife then I commented, you have yet to say anything about it so I am assuming you are debating the aspects of firepower.

I wont be running around with a pistol because i'll will be playing a medium for my first character to tryout a variety of weapons and see what I like. Yes you where arguing that people wont be able to kill with pistols look








To me that sounds like you are arguing that someone would have to be stupid to try and kill someone with a pistol because in your eyes it would be in-effective. Also who said lights where the only ones capable of using a pistol? I never said they would be more effective then heavier weapons I simply stated that they could be just as effective as those in the right hands with the right tactics.You are misreading my point completely.



What are you talking about go back and read posts I mentioned the knife as well as Wraith. But thats not the point I am not debating firepower I am debating you notion that someone would be stupid to use a pistol running around instead something heavier because of the firepower. Sure they may have less firepower but any gun is capable of killing someone am I correct? All you need is the right tactics and someone can be just as deadly with a pistol as someone with an SMG.