Agreed.

1. There are anime and advlt mods for Morrowind as well.
2. There are some really high quality Oblivion mods that you're discounting needllessly out of hand
3. A hosting service should be judged on the merits of the hosting service.

That was the case when I was an admin there. That was my job in fact...and one reason why it often took so long for a mod to become available. The fact is actually, that a good 30% of mods never saw the light of day....typically little "cheat" mods and those that were horribly dirty. Typically we tried to work with the author to resolve any problems, but some people were just hostile to the notion of having their work critiqued in such a fashion, which I can certainly understand. But it is PES policy that things that can potentially cause harm to a save game would not be allowed.

Not necessarily....there is no requirement that a mod has to be lost first and then recovered. We want to make sure they DON'T get lost. That is the entire purpose of MMH.

Yep, GHF has a mod hosting area that isn't specific to Morrowind (although it does have a Morrowind section.) It uses the same framework as MMH, BTW. http://download.fliggerty.com/

I'm looking to see if I can come up with something. Peachykeen and I were discussing some automated mod fetching system at one point, and I may have some of our ideas archived. I might be able to come up with something that can automatically (and incrementally, over time) fetch and archive everything. At the very least, I want to ensure that I have a copy of everything, should the worst happen.

Grow up.

I don't see the point in anyone hating on TESNexus, any hosting should be greatly appreciated, and frankly I love the site. If you don't like some of the content, don't blame the hoster, hell don't even blame the modder, just shut up and move on. JFC.

Anyway, good to hear PES will stay up, and that there'll eventually be a Morrowind Nexus. The community appreciates the time you put into it; I definitely do.

Funny, I don't have a single one of those mods you talk about in ANY of my Bethesda games and I almost always get my mods from Nexus (though not Morrowind right now, obviously).

I would much rather the Morrowind modding community not alienate itself from everyone else for acting like a bunch of pompous egocentrics with a massive superiority complex (which is how most of the Oblivion community makes it out), and posts like these don't help.

The only people that can be blamed for all the immature softcoe mods for Oblivion are the ones that, you know, make the mods.

Anywho, the Nexus is a solid site, and, once Morrowind gets separated from the Oblivion comunity, it will get even better. Solid framework, and almost as good as PES.

Hopefully PES stays alive, (It will hang on for a year or two at least...), but it looks like the Morrowind community already has plans should things not work out.

@DefendYourBase: I don't even use nvde BB, let alone softcoe mods. My nephew likes to watch me play when I babysit him, he even has a character.
The problem I have is why what other people mod or do should even matter. You don't like it? Fine. Move on. Don't condemn a site and community because of it.

Agreed. I just posted pretty much the same thing over on wolflore where a smaller but similar discussion is ongoing. There is no way we can just accept that everything will be ifne, we've heard that one before, eh?

As to the discussion regarding hentai and softcoe stuff, isn't that really a moot point? If you don't think the mod is moraly acceptable, don't download the thing, eh? Don't worry about policing everybody else's notions to suit your own, there are more than enough personal choices to keep one busy.

Yes, there is an increased amount of "those" mods, but it is far from the majority of oblivion mods! most of you who condemn Nexus for it talks about the latest files area, without delving into the site itself - the areas where you will find the mods from before Oblivion was abandoned by people leaving
for Fallout, and then Skyrim. Nowadays it is "kept alive" by "those" mods, but also by other types of mods, that you would call quality mods - but yes, they are more scarse than before.

I think the point, lost in the sea of negativity perhaps, is that PES contains more mods with substance than Nexus. If the former were to truly contain nothing but the likes of NOM and the latter were to truly contain nothing but sixy armor mods, I would agree. But I know that not to be the case, especially since PES is hardly devoid of sixy armor mods.

Some of us just like PES better due to the interface.

Oblivion has more hentai mods because the engine/graphics allow(s) it to.

Ah at least I got something right, but as I got it things won't shut down as u say, only we might not be able to upload new mods.

I was going to point this out. A quick examination of the top 25 of DragonAge Nexus, or Skyrim Nexus will show you that the problem is not confined to Oblivion. Yes, the Anime mods, from the impractical clothes (some of which are no worse than your average fantasy TV show) to the hardcoe porm mods - there are only a few authors who make these though. Most of us Oblivion modders are, fankly, completely sick of it because it A: drives good moders away and B: wastes time on scripting and animation expertese which rahter than being used to badly simulate a six act could instead be employed to have someone wrestle a bear, or do the washing up.

This is to say nothing of the corry state you are in if you actually want to play a male character with unique armour.

Morrowind avoids all of this primarily because you can do it more easily in Oblivion, but then I expect you'll be able to do it even easier in Skyrim, at which point hopefully the tide will go out for Oblivion and we can stop drowning in the stuff.

Anyway, I thought you guys were supposed to be talking about practical hosting solutions. I would say both TESA and Nexus are solid options that should be seriously considered.

The thing is that if PES ends up defunct, and the content from thre is backed up at the Nexus, then Nexus content would actually be greater than what is at PES now, yes? It would have a full compliment of both NOM and sixy armor mods. Frankly, Great House Fliggerty is set up quite well in that respect.

I keep thinking though of sites like Elric's and what happened when they go down long-term or permanently. How many times do you stumble into what sounds like a cool mod, click a link and get a file 404 or page not found? Many of those mods are just gone, and it doens't matter what their content was.

Currently, I get a page full of ASCII code instead of a download at PES, and without tech support, that's just going to get worse.

I am in the same boat, months ago I tried to log onto PES to put all my mods on there. reset password system didn't do anything. used the contact an admin system too, no response. At that point I did give up on PES. I would love to put all my mods on PES, to me, the interface is a lot better then many other sites. Clean, simple, nothing flashy.

I would also support a MWNexus site, I have warmed up more to the nexus layout. In fact, this easter, I was going to upload all my mods onto Nexus. It also makes sense to split OB from MW, as many new Skyrim TES players are also trying out the older games, and so naturally want mods too, so it would help avoid confusion as to what game a mod is for.

I fail to see where's the fun in playing as a barbie six doll in the believable fictional universe that is TES, but people are free to do whatever they want with their game and in their game. Animatiing those it's just how they best learn to use Maya or Max or whatever their software of choice is. sixy stuff keeps 'em focused.

You're dead right about the lack of clothing and armor mods for male characters. It's very irritating. Mods will allow my female character to look as pretty as possible, however my male character will have to stick to the vanilla armor and cloth. Positive discrimination.(or is it?)

As for the ASCII code, just happened to me as well. Was going to back up the Books Mods for Morrowind. Seems I can hardly do it.

Woah! I'm not even here to defend my self and y'all are wrongly accusing me of claiming that the majority of Oblivion mods are anime! I wrongly messed up my post with hastiness and anger there...what I really mean is that those mods are the majority of the recognized and front-page mods. I don't like how oblivion is the only front-page game I see. I saw ONE Morrowind mod. That's it. I'm glad they can be separated now. Please, disregard my post and don't think I am biased and prejudiced. Biased posts and prejudiced posts on the nexus got me riled up yesterday. I hate that behavior. I have already begun to fix my posts to show my true and un-angered meaning. It's kind of bad I had to say this twice in one thread though... Apologies.

I'm sorry for double posting but I just saw this...dude calm down. Anyone who fights with someone on forums needs to grow up as well. Maybe we all should grow up a little. I mean, we are alienating ourselves just because we don't like the nature of some OB mods? Hell, I'm not. I have a WIP on the nexus as we speak.

Right click + save as

At a guess you are using the latest version of Firefox ? , of so it affects other websites too not just PES ,closing Firefox then restarting should fix it temporarily, Alternatively try a different browser till the Mozilla folks sort it out.

I can write the majority of the script to get the information (and links perhaps) of most of it. Heavy processing of it afterwards though...


The script would be written in http://www.autohotkey.com/ so... Give me a bit and I'll see if I can get the basics written.

edit: Here's the base script. It's not very smart but it would do the job for a basic information saving...

Sorry but I never said that, and I never replied to your post, I don't even know what you said. I replied to the idea that we as a community shouldn't 'resort' to being associated with TESNexus because of some hentai mods. How you read my words and how I type them are different as well. I'm in no way new to the internet, nothing offends me here, the tone there was more 'get over yourself' than 'how dare you'. And though I'm probably delving too deeply here, arguments on the internet are as natural as they are, for the most part, pointless. Arguing isn't immature, the point he presented, IMO, just plain was. I don't want to derail this thread anymore, but hey, if you mention me I will respond, be warned. ;P

My second post btw was a response to a now deleted post by him, not sure why the mod didn't delete mine as well, it's not breaking any rules but is a little redundant.

LOL, me and Praedator had a fight on here once. Good times

Pretty brave to take on a Bird of Prey like that. You lose an eye, or a finger?

BTW, for those interested, I'm going through PES mods category by category, grabbing up stuff that I think needs to be preserved, especially stuff made by people who don't hang out here. Any recommendations for mods that may not be on my radar, please let me know.

I've gone through the alchemy section already, grabbing stuff like Advanced Alchemy, Advanced Herbalism, and More Gems. Next up: Armor. Boy is this one going to take awhile...

I was just saying we all should get over it and use the nexus anyway. Like you said. There's nothing wrong with it.

That's such a shame. PES, with the exception of its search system, has always been the superior and definitive hosting site for Morrowind mods - TesSource (Nexus) and ElricM were okay alternatives but never really felt like they had the professionalism that PES provided. Such a shame that such a wonderful site is nearing it's end.