Indeed. Though Nexus has come on in leaps and bounds in recet years. It used to be much harder to navigate for me than PES.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, it's one less avenue from which inconsiderate people can make mod "compilations" without regard to permissions, credits, or version upkeep and get away with it.

...go away.

Are you kidding me? Did you just actually relegate all mod hosting sites as this?

Thanks DarkOne to make finally separate Nexus site for Morrowind and Oblivion !


So what about the mods database of PES to be put into the new Morrowind Nexus?

Now this kind of comment I'm not going to stand for. I've been visiting that site for some time now, and I cannot think of a single outstanding instance in which credit has not been given or permission has not been granted. Not one sticks out well enough for me to remember. I'm sure they're there, but they're certainly not even remotely the majority. Take your horrible attitude elsewhere, it's not welcome here.

I've got the first incarnation of a script running right now grabbing the first several dozen mods from PES. So far it all looks good. It's getting the files and the relevant data (ie, title, author, description, etc.) One of the things I'm also looking at is the posted redistribution information. All of those that immediately allow it will be posted at MMH as soon as possible. The rest will be archived should the worst case scenario with PES come to pass.

Message received today by the admin of PES (thanks to him for the answer):


Fliggerty => can nobody use this sript to backup also somes PES mods?

Let me test it for a few days and get some bugs worked out; then I'll gladly share it. It's a PHP script that is storing the data in a MySQL database (although it uses PDO, so you could plug it into any database engine you wish.) Once I know it's not going to blow things up or crash any servers (it does have a forced delay to reduce load BTW) I'll get it to you.

Indeed, the site is definitely not in safe hands once May comes around. It'll be living on borrowed time, so it's good that folks are getting started with exodus plans now rather than 3 weeks from now when time is short. Or 3 months from now when the site goes belly up without warning and never comes back.

I had pretty much the same problem recently when I went to try and update two Oblivion mods, and was going to upload some Skyrim stuff. My cookie had expired and I couldn't log on. Password retrieval went nowhere, and nobody was answering the email. Gave up at that point.

The 25MB file size limit has always been a major irritant as well.

Nothing to sort. The garbled text issue is a MIME type misconfiguration on the server's end of things. Of all the websites I pile through, PES is the only one giving this sort of trouble and it wasn't restricted to just Firefox.

They may not be the majority but I know for a fact he's right. Compilations have been slipped in there before and it's a bear to get them pulled down. We had this problem with the Unique Landscapes mods for Oblivion. Twice someone uploaded them to PES without our permission and it took ages to get it dealt with both times.

This is exactly what I'm counting on, because I'd rather do that and be pleasantly surprised if/when PES is still around another two years or something, than lose out on any number of mods there that I'm unable to locate elsewhere (who knows how many of those there are).


If they're referring mostly to Oblivion mods, then I wouldn't know, since I don't pay attention to them, since I don't own Oblivion. I'll admit that I made the assumption that Morrowind mods were in question, though I think that's reasonable considering that: 1) I think most people on here are concerned about all the Morrowind mods that are on PES, not so much the Oblivion ones, and 2) this is a Morrowind mod forum.

He wasn't taking a shot at KingPix, he was referring to the stated issues with unauthorized "compilations" where the uploader packages a bunch of mods together and uploads them without bothering to ask for consent.

This is a global issue (across game modding in general, not just TES modding), just because it is more publicized in Oblivion does not mean it doesn't happen to Morrowind modders, and it doesn't matter one bit that Oblivion has it happen more. If it happens, nothing else really matters, and it happens for every moddable game that has been released.

If anything, Morrowind is even more vulnerable because a large number of the people behind some very popular mods have since disappeared. Such behavior as this should not be encouraged, ever. If you want to make a compilation, do what KingPix did and get the author's permission for each mod you want to include.

Compilations in general seem fairly useless to me. Modular ones are much more efficient to add, and even with proper permissions, isn't it a waste of time to just stick several mods into one folder?

They're for the casual or returning gamer who wants to have a modded enhanced experience without going through too much hassle. I've used compilations for other games I'm not as invested in, and they're a godsend. Compilations are a solid idea but people just need to be respectful when making it. Props to KingPix for MGSO.

I tried to update a previous entry at Pes, but I got this message

There were problems with your last operation:
The temporary directory for uploads is missing on this server.

On the contrary, yes single mods are more efficient if you want to tailor your game to suit a specific taste but the compilations cater for the majority of gamers who would like the enhanced gaming experience of using a lot of mods but don't know what mods are available and/or don't have the time , inspiration or the technical expertise to assemble a large collection and get everything running properly together.

The most significant release in recent times has been the Morrowind Overhaul Sound and Graphics Compilation, the publicity received has played an extremely important role in attracting fresh interest into Morrowind, Despite the game being nine years old at the time, MOSG has been featured on several gaming websites , been downloaded a couple of hundred thousand times and universally very well received ,If you look on you tube , many of the latest Morrowind videos have MOSG in use and favorable comments from gamers everywhere have been overwhelming. Compilations play a very important role both in enhancing gaming experiences and in helping keep the game alive IMO.

I'm sorry to hear about PES... it has always been, by far, my favorite Morrowind mod repository. I've found TESNexus off-putting, but maybe I will warm up to MWNexus if it becomes a reality.

Has anyone or group started downloading all the PES files, or made arrangements for backups that could be provided to another, active site?

Well said. *Tips top hat*

Yes.

Don't you have to be a member to DL mods from there?

It's not the regular sitegoers that do it... it's FilePlanet themselves. And it's like pulling teeth to get them to take it down from what I've heard.

That probably goes along with the news that they're not taking new files anymore either, but it's not a good sign either way.

Oh yeah, that site is one of the biggest offenders. The irony here is that Fileplanet is also an IGN holding, so you can expect it to begin to collapse at some point as well.

AFAIK no you don't have to be a member on http://download.fliggerty.com/ and that also applies for http://mw.modhistory.com/.

Yeah, I DLed something from both sites without being logged in. I, for one, will be uploading my mods to TESAlliance, the Nexus, and GHF in the absence of PES. I have a simple philosophy for uploading mods: Go ahead and upload to all known MW mod hosting sites. I will be using ALL of them for my mods. I think all modders should use more than one site anyway. It keeps mods from being lost.