If someone managed to get all those mods to another site, make a new site and upload them all, or bought out that site, I'd donate to them ha

That's exactly what Arthmoor did last year when he became a member of http://download.fliggerty.com/download-122 just to mirror his mods on other http://www.tesvskyrim.com/skyrim-author-5 than TESA and TES Nexus, Skyrim Nexus.

Fligg is already http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=85125#p85125 on that right now and I'm quite sure that he is successful.

All Fligg now needs to do is appoint an heir to succeed him as Grand Morrowind Librarian in case anything should happen to him.

First of all, thanks for the kind words from everyone in this thread! Here's a short update on the current situation.

As for current technical problems, the password reset feature seems to be the most annoying/far-reaching issue. I've been trying to get it fixed in the past, but a proper solution has never been deployed and I doubt that it will be fixed, without technical support and all.

The temporary file upload error has nothing to do with my departure from PES. If it is indeed still occuring, I will try to get it repaired but again, without proper support from IGN it is unlikely that there will be a quick fix.

I appreciate the efforts to mirror, backup or download files from PES. I am not taking down the site, so there is no immediate danger, but the technical situation may change. Unfortunately, I cannot give 'official permission' for anyone to make a complete backup of all files on another website, simply because of the redistribution. Not all mod authors have indicated whether their mods may be redistributed or not, and especially in the Morrowind mods section, with many older mods, this information is missing and cannot be seen as implied permission. I appreciate the efforts taken to save the mod content from PES. Making a personal backup is of course no problem, but please respect the rights of mod authors when thinking about redistributing content.

For now, it looks like the site will continue to run on the current infrastructure, and my role will hopefully be taken over. I'll try to monitor this thread (although I will be without internet access for a couple days).

This is pretty big, but it's also the nature of cloud creativity. Even major industries like Hollywood movie making studios (including majors like Disney) have struggled with the issue of archiving creative works. This has happened even after the acknowledged that the works are not simply business products.

By the way, Nexus also has elements such as File of the Month and interviews with various modders, so it isn't as limited as some seem to think. It's also been evolving rapidly in the past year, probably due to the release of Skyrim (but it's evolving to include other major game titles that support modding). People need to remember that Nexus was originally TESSource, and that Nexus was first created after losing Source due to a simple oversight. The structure of the older content (e.g., Morrowind + Oblivion) is likely just a legacy from the birth of the site.

As another idea about preservation, CivFanatics for Civilization is probably the major source for Civ mods, so someone might want to ask them how they go about archiving their content for saving in case disaster happens.

I'd also like to point out that people who claim that this is a "community" need to stop making rude comments about various preferences within the "community." SOME people may not want East Asian art styles, voices, etc in their TES games, but many of us do! Of course, there are a wide variety of such styles in Easst Asian culture, but many people seem to paint all such content with the same brush. The same ethnocentrism can happen in reverse, of course (e.g., all American games are nothing but violence taken to extremes while claiming to be "entertaining"). TES games (and others) are supposed to be about choice - not your choice or a developer's choice, but rather each individual player's choice. More importantly, any "community" is actually not a community if various members suffer insults, derogatory comments, belitttling, and other forms of bullying and hate speech. Do you want to be inclusive, or do you want to be discriminatory? Do you want talented people who have preferences that differ from yours to feel welcomed or do you want to alienate them and have them leave?

Damnit. I never use Nexus. I tried it a couple times and just can't really figure out its format. PES is nice and concise.
Damnit.

I don't like Nexus, PES is very cool ;(

I don't think anyone ever insulted the skill that goes into those types of mods for Oblivion, but they are all you see on the front page. Some "real"/"regular" mods would be nice to see once in a while.

@APY_PES: I'm sure the modders who aren't there anymore wouldn't object to their mods being stored on MMH. Like you said, though, we don't have explicit permission. I just find it hard to think someone would want to risk their content being lost because they don't want anyone else uploading their mod. Some are that way though.

Does this issue have anything to do with Westly's mods at PES? When you go to download you just get a big screen of gobbly-gook.

Right-click and save as.

Any news on splitting Morrowind and Oblivion on Nexus?

I definitely say that we should start archiving the Morrowind and Oblivion mods NOW before we get news that the site is going down, and start planning on what we're going to do with them - IE upload them to tesnexus, upload them to moddb, etc.

Seeing as the admins of Nexus confirmed that Morrowind and Oblivion are going to split into two separate sites, I'm going to reserve judgement on them. Hopefully the site's quality will improve afterwards.

Eh, I like Nexus somewhat. I think their search is MUCH better than PES, but their download interface gave me cancer.

LOLZ! That's funny because I actually had cancer before. Diagnosed right after I first explored Nexus. Go figure.
Note: I am not offended. Don't worry. ...true story up there ^^

Ad this is why you dont make jokes about people dieing either.

Least I genuinely thought it was funny! True though. Careful with such content in the future.

whats up with you people flaming the nexus? this is not fair!
go open your own morrowind site and make everything better before you write such [censored], thanks.

Flaming? We are writing our honest opinion. Personally I do not like the download interface. However, I, and probably most everyone here, uses it for Oblivion mods (if they play oblivion).


Edit: Mostly what people were complaining about was that there wasn't 2 sites for Oblivion and Morrowind. Also, I'm fairly sure that several people ARE making alternatives for Nexus. I respect your opinion that you like TesNexus, but it sounds like you do not respect ours. As my mother would say, "Take a chillaxative."

Well that svcks. I can't even think off the top of my head of any other mod sites.

I've started moving my stuff over to TESAlliance. The Morrowind section is kinda bare bones, but the interface and options are freakin awesome. Like a breath of fresh air after using PES for so long.

Yeah I agree, TESAlliance is good, too.
Maybe after moving quite a lot of mods the Morrowind section could be ressurrected

I will upload my mods at TESAlliance too.

I'm sure that'll change soon

Personally I dont see what the big deal is. It's always a shame when a site goes under, yes. But from my own experience PES has always been pretty svcky. Not too great searching and ordering, only rarely been able to log in, never successfully uploaded a mod, tried a million times but its never worked. Adverts everywhere, crappy new theme that cramms everything into a tiny slither of your screen.


Nexus has always worked for me, and its fast and has an interface that just makes sense. The new theme on PES was about as usefull as the UI in TES V.