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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:48 am

If anyone's interested, http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/category/2-morrowind-mods/ looks like it could be a nice replacement for PES. It offers ratings, reviews, screenies, etc. Apparently you can get updates when comments are added, too.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:17 pm

The more places we have committed to keeping the community alive, the better. The loss of PES is going to be quite a blow though.

Also, for anyone taking part in archiving mods off PES, I would advise concentrating on mods by people we can't easily reach on here or other popular forums. I just thought of this as I was going through the Hall of Fame list, as I noticed that a good deal of the mods on there could probably easily be acquired through their authors, as they hang out here (Trainwiz, Vurt, tronvillain, Bahamut, etc.). Others, like Acheron's Camping Gear, perhaps not so much.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:46 am

Well if someone is orchestrating the backup/moving process, then great. I'm sure inside eight hours I could create a bot to filter through and grab all the mods, and Page datas, extract it to some type of csv format for a db, as well as download the pictures and perhaps files not FilePlanet related. But I know I don't have that Patience right now to work on that :( And may not for 3 months. (Don't you hate med changes?)

I need to wonder, why they would stop supporting it. Even if you don't have a technical staff, I'm sure there would be volunteers that would be willing to deal with the minor details, and even then the database of information (minus FilePlanet and file upload details) should handle itself.
I have time and space for backup the mods, but I miss a softxware/script for automatized this backup process.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:39 pm

If anyone's interested, http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/category/2-morrowind-mods/ looks like it could be a nice replacement for PES. It offers ratings, reviews, screenies, etc. Apparently you can get updates when comments are added, too.

Indeed, and we have had plans to add a Hall of Fame type incentive as well in the near future. Our MW section is kind of thin, but only because we came after the days of MW, but TES Alliance is a growing active site, and has always made separate, equal consideration for Morrowind fans on our boards and in our downloads section. We'd be happy to welcome our MW friends who may be looking for a new mirror with the trouble on PES. :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:25 pm

Okay, that's good!

I edited my post over at the Nexus to the true meaning BTW...

:nope: wish I'd have gotten there sooner...
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:10 pm

Let's look at it from a corporate perspective here. Relatively speaking, the Morrowind playerbase, and indeed, Oblivion's, are fairly small compared to the Skyrim playerbase. If TESNexus doesn't make 2 sites for OB/MW, the Morrowind modding community will grunt, scream. and stamp our legs, but honestly, unless the Admin CARES, our protests/requests will have little effect. Now, if they didn't make a SkyrimNexus, think of all the emails they would get:

lolz y is sykrim on same website as svckblivion and MORRO(BLEEP)!!!1!! u guys svck, y are people still playig gmes with horiblle grafics?!?!?1!

Imagine 500 of these every day (but with much more cursing).
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:33 pm

The more places we have committed to keeping the community alive, the better.
i dont 100% agree with that as i think the best about PES was that almost every TES player went there for mods - you get by far more feedback and DLs there than on any other site. Having dozens of different sites will sure mean that not all mods are available at a single space and that our small community will spread all over the different sites and dont be together in one place. Also it would be a little annoying for uploaders to maintain their mods on to many sites.

but the idea to back up the mods on as many sites as possible i agree with.

Indeed, and we have had plans to add a Hall of Fame type incentive as well in the near future. Our MW section is kind of thin, but only because we came after the days of MW, but TES Alliance is a growing active site, and has always made separate, equal consideration for Morrowind fans on our boards and in our downloads section. We'd be happy to welcome our MW friends who may be looking for a new mirror with the trouble on PES. :smile:
i like this website, it has a very nice look to it and also the functionality seems very good!

realy nice would be if we get a new major place for all our mods and if that place includes something to show the ratings/comments the different mods had on PES, mabe just screenshots or something. iam quite sure no matter how nice our new mod site will be - it will never again reach the reknown and comunity activity as PES, thats why i think its needed to include all those ratings/comments/downloads from PES. i agree with Logitech that those are essential for downloaders to check the bug reports and the quality of a mod before DLing it and testing it for hours.


edit: i dont know nothing about this, but isnt it possible to get the sourcecode from PES and just host the whole thing eslweyr? might be a little naive from me.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:32 pm

Just decided to chime in here and add an official statement from the ‘PES guy’ :)

I’m sorry that some confusion has arisen over the question whether Planet Elder Scrolls will shut down or not. It won’t. There’s two main issues right now:
  • IGN has laid off support staff. That means Planet Elder Scrolls is not getting much technical support anymore and issues (such as the Hall of Fame selection system not working) are not always getting fixed.
  • I started working on Planet Elder Scrolls (then Morrowind Summit) in 2001, when I was still in school. Over the years, as I moved to university and then to a fulltime job, I have had less and less time spend on the site.
Concretely, starting on May 1, the following will happen:
  • I will no longer personally approve content. This means new content may, or may not be, approved. I’ll try to find people who are willing to take over, but I cannot guarantee that new content will timely appear on the site.
  • Large files will no longer be added by me. Our large files upload procedure involved me manually adding them to entries. I will either try to find someone else to do this, or you can choose to upload your file to Fileplanet and edit your entry with a link to Fileplanet.
I’ll be on the lookout for someone to take over at least the approval of mods and adding large files. As the site will not be taken offline, extensive backup procedures won’t be necessary right now. However, as my involvement will end later this month, I won’t be able to support any undertakings after that date.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:36 am

Edit: ninja'd by the man himself. Sounds like things will be fine once a budding recruit is found (and I've seen plenty in this thread already!). Good luck APY.

There's plenty of reasons Morrowind and Oblivion mods were linked on the Nexus sites. To begin with, they were the first games I hosted mods for, and it made more logical sense for me to keep them together as I wasn't running around supporting as many games as possible at the time. Similarly, PES and ElricM were always there so the Nexus became a back up mirror more than anything else. It made no sense for me to take the time to separate the two games as there were other, more supported sites for Morrowind that meant it wasn't important for me to do it. PES and ElricM did a great job, so there was no need for me to attempt to muddy the waters by making a competing site.

To be fair, a lot of the Morrowind community has always stuck its nose up at TESNexus, just like I'm sure a lot of the Skyrim community sticks its nose up at any site that isn't the Nexus or SW. People defend the sites they use, so I regularly see comments on these Morrowind boards that "the Nexus only has endorsemants and forums" or "the Nexus has 90% nvde mods" or similar, from people who've clearly only spent 5 minutes max on the sites else they'd know it to be utter cods-wallop. It comes part and parcel of communities in general. And I hate that sort of mindless crap.

I can most definitely separate the two games on to separate sites, I imagine it would take about a day of work. To be honest though, I see lots of non-sense spread about me or the Nexus on various sites about how "Dark0ne doesn't care about this community" and it just makes me shy away from attempts. Look at my join date here; the Morrowind community is where the Nexus started and the entire root of all the sites I have made since. I think Morrowind is a great game. I think Oblivion and Skyrim are great games too but I always seem to find myself stuck, in this Morrowind community, with people who either want to tell me PES is superior (hey, you're entitled to your opinion!) or that I'm a fool for enjoying Oblivion and then I sort of just leave the ghosts of 11 years past where they are. It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:10 pm

Just decided to chime in here and add an official statement from the ‘PES guy’ :smile:

I’m sorry that some confusion has arisen over the question whether Planet Elder Scrolls will shut down or not. It won’t. There’s two main issues right now:
  • IGN has laid off support staff. That means Planet Elder Scrolls is not getting much technical support anymore and issues (such as the Hall of Fame selection system not working) are not always getting fixed.
  • I started working on Planet Elder Scrolls (then Morrowind Summit) in 2001, when I was still in school. Over the years, as I moved to university and then to a fulltime job, I have had less and less time spend on the site.
Concretely, starting on May 1, the following will happen:
  • I will no longer personally approve content. This means new content may, or may not be, approved. I’ll try to find people who are willing to take over, but I cannot guarantee that new content will timely appear on the site.
  • Large files will no longer be added by me. Our large files upload procedure involved me manually adding them to entries. I will either try to find someone else to do this, or you can choose to upload your file to Fileplanet and edit your entry with a link to Fileplanet.
I’ll be on the lookout for someone to take over at least the approval of mods and adding large files. As the site will not be taken offline, extensive backup procedures won’t be necessary right now. However, as my involvement will end later this month, I won’t be able to support any undertakings after that date.
Thanks for the explanation APY. And many, many thanks for your efforts over the years, often in the face of similarly strident comments.
Just decided to chime in here and add an official statement from the ‘PES guy’ :smile:

I’m sorry that some confusion has arisen over the question whether Planet Elder Scrolls will shut down or not. It won’t. There’s two main issues right now:
  • IGN has laid off support staff. That means Planet Elder Scrolls is not getting much technical support anymore and issues (such as the Hall of Fame selection system not working) are not always getting fixed.
  • I started working on Planet Elder Scrolls (then Morrowind Summit) in 2001, when I was still in school. Over the years, as I moved to university and then to a fulltime job, I have had less and less time spend on the site.
Concretely, starting on May 1, the following will happen:
  • I will no longer personally approve content. This means new content may, or may not be, approved. I’ll try to find people who are willing to take over, but I cannot guarantee that new content will timely appear on the site.
  • Large files will no longer be added by me. Our large files upload procedure involved me manually adding them to entries. I will either try to find someone else to do this, or you can choose to upload your file to Fileplanet and edit your entry with a link to Fileplanet.
I’ll be on the lookout for someone to take over at least the approval of mods and adding large files. As the site will not be taken offline, extensive backup procedures won’t be necessary right now. However, as my involvement will end later this month, I won’t be able to support any undertakings after that date.

Thanks for the explanation APY. And many, many thanks for your efforts over the years, often in the face of similarly strident commenting.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:11 am

Edit: ninja'd by the man himself. Sounds like things will be fine once a budding recruit is found (and I've seen plenty in this thread already!). Good luck APY.

There's plenty of reasons Morrowind and Oblivion mods were linked on the Nexus sites. To begin with, they were the first games I hosted mods for, and it made more logical sense for me to keep them together as I wasn't running around supporting as many games as possible at the time. Similarly, PES and ElricM were always there so the Nexus became a back up mirror more than anything else. It made no sense for me to take the time to separate the two games as there were other, more supported sites for Morrowind that meant it wasn't important for me to do it. PES and ElricM did a great job, so there was no need for me to attempt to muddy the waters by making a competing site.

To be fair, a lot of the Morrowind community has always stuck its nose up at TESNexus, just like I'm sure a lot of the Skyrim community sticks its nose up at any site that isn't the Nexus or SW. People defend the sites they use, so I regularly see comments on these Morrowind boards that "the Nexus only has endorsemants and forums" or "the Nexus has 90% nvde mods" or similar, from people who've clearly only spent 5 minutes max on the sites else they'd know it to be utter cods-wallop. It comes part and parcel of communities in general. And I hate that sort of mindless crap.

I can most definitely separate the two games on to separate sites, I imagine it would take about a day of work. To be honest though, I see lots of non-sense spread about me or the Nexus on various sites about how "Dark0ne doesn't care about this community" and it just makes me shy away from attempts. Look at my join date here; the Morrowind community is where the Nexus started and the entire root of all the sites I have made since. I think Morrowind is a great game. I think Oblivion and Skyrim are great games too but I always seem to find myself stuck, in this Morrowind community, with people who either want to tell me PES is superior (hey, you're entitled to your opinion!) or that I'm a fool for enjoying Oblivion and then I sort of just leave the ghosts of 11 years past where they are. It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
And many thanks to you too DarkOne. The Nexus is a great and very much appreciated resource, notwithstanding the occasionally "exotic" interface changes.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:50 am

phew that is a relief! i was realy worried some time :biggrin:

@APY - can you tell me what will happen to the people who cant login to PES?
i have the problem that i couldnt login with my password and password recovery didnt work.
maybe you can sort this out before you stop working at PES?

thank both APY and DARK for being awesome!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:53 pm

I like both sites, can't say I favour one over the other, they're both good :shrug:

So thanks to both of you for providing an awesome resource that I've used time and again over the past few years.


-kWM
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:20 am

phew that is a relief! i was realy worried some time :biggrin: @APY - can you tell me what will happen to the people who cant login to PES? i have the problem that i couldnt login with my password and password recovery didnt work. maybe you can sort this out before you stop working at PES? thank both APY and DARK for being awesome!

I don't have any pending e-mails about password resets - could you please e-mail me (apy ~ planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com)?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:40 am

Well, that is indeed a relief. And, if Morrowind does get seperated into a seperate site on Nexus, I will definitely put all of my stuff on there, and give it more love overall. And, of course, I know that the stereotypes APY mentioned aren't true, since I browse TESNexus for Oblivion mods all the time (including the various nvde mods *chuckle*).
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:55 pm

Well, that is indeed a relief. Although, if Morrowind does get seperated into a seperate site on Nexus, I will definitely put all of my stuff on there as a backup.


It will be happening soon-ish ™ as we'll be adding NMM support for Morrowind mods soon. I could have sped up the process of separating the games to accommodate the community if PES really were going down, but now APY has put some fears to rest I can get back to my originally scheduled programming and I'll readdress this closer to when we have NMM ready for Morrowind.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:06 am

To be brutally frank, if PES is no longer being supported by IGN and and APY is leaving in May then the site is hardly safe. Laying off tech support smells like asset stripping. Given the recent hoo-har over downloads I would not be surprised if fileplanet itself was being would up by IGN as more trouble than it's worth.

Flame me to your hearts' content, but I would be wary.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:09 pm

If there's going to be a separate "Morrowind Nexus", shouldn't "TES Nexus" be renamed to "Oblivion Nexus"?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:54 am

If there's going to be a separate "Morrowind Nexus", shouldn't "TES Nexus" be renamed to "Oblivion Nexus"?
TESNexus will cease to exist, but will redirect to Oblivion Nexus. While Morrowind will get a new site, Morrowind Nexus. :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:02 am

To be brutally frank, if PES is no longer being supported by IGN and and APY is leaving in May then the site is hardly safe. Laying off tech support smells like asset stripping. Given the recent hoo-har over downloads I would not be surprised if fileplanet itself was being would up by IGN as more trouble than it's worth.

Flame me to your hearts' content, but I would be wary.

I share the same concerns , other gaming communities likewise, because critical editorial staff serving other communities in addition to tech support have also lost their jobs. Not only that IGN have sold off at least one (presumably) cash generative portion of the business so one has to wonder what their plans are with the remainder that is left ? Maybe they are holding on temporarily in the hope of finding a buyer ? IGN aren't saying anything but i will not be overly surprised if they pull the plug .
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:32 pm

Damn it.

I like PES a lot more than the Nexus.

Will be backing up stuff.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:02 pm

To be brutally frank, if PES is no longer being supported by IGN and and APY is leaving in May then the site is hardly safe. Laying off tech support smells like asset stripping. Given the recent hoo-har over downloads I would not be surprised if fileplanet itself was being would up by IGN as more trouble than it's worth.

This is the worst case scenario I was talking about. With all due respect to APY, the best thing for us to do is assume that PES is going down eventually.

I'd actually like to avoid any one site becoming THE place for Morrowind mods, to avoid over-burdening it with traffic. I know it's more convenient, but the sheer load placed on whoever runs that one site is unfair, I think. I'm not saying we need hundreds of them, but at least six main sites for people to go to would be better than just one.

I don't have a problem with Nexus not being much of a Morrowind mod site, because I don't think being dedicated to Elder Scrolls mods dictates that every game be covered. They should do their thing the way they want to. If they think dividing up the sections more is conducive to their aims, fine. If not, I don't really give a crap.

I hope PES is around for at least another six months, because it's probably going to take me that long to collect all the mods that I need to.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:30 pm

Like Ryu said, Oblivion has become anime and hentai softcoe pormess. its pretty bad, and TESNEXUS is the hoster for all of the trash! Morrowind shouldnt resort to being buddied with that crap..
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:39 pm

Like Ryu said, Oblivion has become anime and hentai softcoe pormess. its pretty bad, and TESNEXUS is the hoster for all of the trash! Morrowind shouldnt resort to being buddied with that crap..
This seems a bit baseless to me. I've used PES for Morrowind, mostly because that's where all the stuff is. But I've used Nexus for Fallout and Oblivion and Skyrim, and there's quite a wide variety of mods. You only see the weird stuff if you're looking for it.

The community is the same people regardless of where they upload their mods. I just think it's stupid to suggest that Nexus is all hentai when they provide quite an efficient service for all types of mods.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:15 pm

Like Ryu said, Oblivion has become anime and hentai softcoe pormess. its pretty bad, and TESNEXUS is the hoster for all of the trash! Morrowind shouldnt resort to being buddied with that crap..
I wish y'all would stick closer to the truth. Sure there is such content made for Oblivion and hosted on Nexus. But it is nowhere near the majority of what is hosted. Plus, there is an easy filter to keep advlt content out of your searches. You do a great disservice to all the truly wonderful mods and modders on Nexus with your inaccurate and derogatory generalizations.
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