hi,

is it possible to play a stereo soundloop for a whole cell?
i want to have a cave wind loop to play in stereo all over the whole dungeon on the same volume.

currently i use invisible activators to play a soundloop, unfortunately they have a radius in wich you can hear the sound but it cant be heard everywhere in the cell.

i noticed when i set the ranges both to 255 the sound is played at the same volume in the whole radius, but still stops as soon as i leave that radius - is it possible to make the Player the soundsource? that should work i think ...

iam sure its something very easy that iam missing ... the only soundloop functions i was able to find are "http://www.uesp.net/morrow/editor/mw_cscommands.shtml#playloopsound3d" or "http://www.uesp.net/morrow/editor/mw_cscommands.shtml#playloopsound3dvp" isnt there just a "PlaySoundLoop"? how are the storm/rain loops are handled?

i hope this is even possible and i hope you understand what i mean.


thanks!

Maybe on of http://www.uesp.net/morrow/editor/mw_cscommands.shtml#playsound commands?

i found out how to play a soundloop at the same volume all the time - via "player -> PlayLoopSound3DVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01", 0.5, 1.0".

still iam using a activator placed inside of the cave wich has the following script attached:

begin PB_Script_Cave_01if ( CellChanged == 0 )    if ( GetSoundPlaying "PB_Loop_Cave_01" == 0 )        player -> PlayLoopSound3DVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01", 0.5, 1.0    endifendifend

unfortunately the soundloop starts over and over again every frame ... thanks to the help i got from you guys in the past, i knew that this would happen but i just dont know how to fix it.

strangely the soundloop is working perfectly when i leave the cell ... and it never stops too

unsure, but worth a try...

begin PB_Script_Cave_01if ( CellChanged == 0 )    if ( player->GetSoundPlaying "PB_Loop_Cave_01" == 0 )        player->PlaySound3DVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01" 0.5 1.0    endifendifend

its working! thanks to you abot!
i was trying for about 4 hours and didnt get anything done ...

there is just one little problem: the loop keeps playing until the soundfile is over when i leave the cell.
so how can the sound be stopped when i leave the cell?

this is what i was not able to understand - i know this is possible with "CellChanged" but i dont get it to work,


edit - i can hear a short break between the soundsamples when i use "PlaySound3DVP" instead of "PlayLoopSound3DVP" ... its late and i will better try again tomorrow, thanks for the help so far!

Never tried this with sound, but since you have the player as the calling object for the sound file, you may have found a limit with PlaySound.

All I can think of is to add a triple-check with current cell location and a StopSound;

begin PB_Script_Cave_01if ( GetInterior == 1 )  ;Not sure if this works if cell is marked as "behave like exterior"if ( CellChanged == 0 )	 if ( player->GetSoundPlaying "PB_Loop_Cave_01" == 0 )		  player->PlaySound3DVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01" 0.5 1.0          elseif ( GetPCCell, "my cell" == 0 )                Player->StopSound, PB_Loop_Cave_01                return	 endifendifendifend

Untested. *crosses fingers*

The script is attached to an in-cell object, right? So, if what you need is a sound playing unrelated to player's direction/distance toward a certain point, why not ditch the 3D in sounds altogether?

begin PB_Script_Cave_01if ( CellChanged == 0 )	if ( GetSoundPlaying "PB_Loop_Cave_01" == 0 )	    PlaySoundVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01" 0.5 1.0	endifendifend

or try this...

begin PB_Script_Cave_01if ( CellChanged )	if ( ScriptRunning "PB_Script_Cave_01_stop" )	else		StartScript "PB_Script_Cave_01_stop"	endif	returnendifif ( player->GetSoundPlaying "PB_Loop_Cave_01" == 0 )	player->PlayLoopSound3DVP "PB_Loop_Cave_01" 0.5 1.0endifend

begin PB_Script_Cave_01_stopif ( GetInterior )	  ; or use if ( GetPCCell "yourInterior" )else	player->StopSound "PB_Loop_Cave_01"	StopScript PB_Script_Cave_01_stopendifend

you people are awesome! thanks for spending time to help me.

abot, the last script you posted works 100% for me but there is one thing iam wondering:

you use "GetInterior" so what happens when i teleport to another interior cell? well i guess ill just test it.
the other option you mentioned via "GetPCCell" would require some annoying keyboard work but will work for sure.

with the "GetInterior" version i would just need to make one script for all cells that use the same soundloop, with "GetPCCell" ill need to make a single script for each cell, right?


with my awesomely bad scripting skills i had an idea:

Begin _asePB_scr_cave1Short InsideAddamasartusif ( GetPCCell Addamasartus == 1 )    if ( InsideAddamasartus == 0 )        messagebox INSIDE        player - PlayLoopSound3DVP _asePB_snd_cave1, 1.0 , 1.0        set InsideAddamasartus to 1    endifelseif ( GetPCCell Addamasartus == 0 )    if ( InsideAddamasartus == 1 )        messagebox OUTSIDE        player - StopSound _asePB_snd_cave1        set InsideAddamasartus to 0    endifelse    messagebox ELSEWHEREendifEnd

this is supposed to be a global script wich runs in the background all the time.
what do you guys think? will this kill performance if it handles hundeds of cells?
i added this as starting script, is that ok?

damn, its like i expected - the loop continues to play when i teleport into another interior (with abots scripts).

these scripts have the same problems like my first one - inside the cave the loop starts again every frame and continues to play outside the cave.
about the 3d sounds - i wanted to ditch them too but there is no non 3d loop function and when i use the regular playsound function there are short breaks when the sound gets looped.

when you tell me that my global script attempt will not work, then i will use abots scripts with "GetPCCell" instead of "GetInterior".

this should not be very bad for the performance even if its hundreds of scripts, correct?


EDIT: with "GetInterior" abots scripts work just perfect! even when i teleport to another interior.
so iam going to wait for your judgement over my global script OR how bad 200 scripts for the interior activators affect the performance. then i will start adding really immersive soundloops to vvardenfells interiors!

abot, i noticed that when i load a savegame where iam inside the cave the sound starts properly but wont stop when i leave the cell.
i cant think of a check to avoid this, but you maybe?

It should work well as auto started global script, GetPCCell is fast, this is slightly optimized

Begin _asePB_scr_cave1Short InsideAddamasartusif ( MenuMode )	returnendifif ( GetPCCell "Addamasartus" )	if ( player->GetSoundPlaying "_asePB_snd_cave1" )	else		player->PlayLoopSound3DVP "_asePB_snd_cave1" 1.0 1.0	endif	if ( InsideAddamasartus )	 else		set InsideAddamasartus to 1	endif	returnendifif ( InsideAddamasartus )	set InsideAddamasartus to 0	player->StopSound "_asePB_snd_cave1"endifEnd

this is working absolutelly flawless now! thanks alot!

i cant believe that my script actualy did what i wanted, iam learning.

i just hope it keeps working so good when i added all the >200 caves to the script, but thanks to your optimization i believe it will work well.



EDIT - one little question: do many spaces or slashes slow down the scripts? or can i use some slashes to get a better visual structure to the script? iam asking because most other scripts i see always have as few unnessesary characters as possible.

I FPS loss is noticeable, you could try splitting tests to no more than a few cells per frameNo, it should not slow script down, it is converted to pseudo code when saved/compiled so spaces/comments are skipped. But it increases mod size so usually spaces/tabs are used only when needed (you must indent code to make it understandable). I do prefer something like

set i1 to 3; starting calculationsset i1 to ( i1 + 100 )

instead of

set i1 to 3; ===================================; starting calculations; ===================================set i1 to ( i1 + 100 )

, but it is a matter of preference.
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