Player Characters and CHIM

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:59 am

I've been pondering, and would like some thoughts if some would be willing to indulge me?

I've been playing the 'same' character since Arena, and by this point the character is almost three-hundred as of Skyrim. They have travelled all of Tamriel, been part of the Warp in the West, met and talked long with Vivec and been made ageless by Corpus, met Talos as Wulf, travelled the plains of Oblivion and read Makar's Commentaries. They have been into the Aetherius no less than twice (Daggerfall and Skyrim) and observed a friend mantle a Madgod.

Thus far, they have always been too 'busy' simpy living to ponder reality and its mysteries, and never collected all the Sermons in Morrowind, but thanks to mods I plan to have them find them all in Skyrim - saved from the events of the Red Year. Its going to be a long time til TESVI and I think its perhaps time for the character to slow down some, and start to read and 'understand'. To perhaps start puttign togetehr the jigsaw thats been having pieces added for centuries.

But i'm not sure how far to take this understanding, since I don't know how I would wrangle continuing to play the charcater afterwards. Whether I should leave them on just the edge of understanding, to reach it when I am no longer part of their tale, or go the whole way.

Thoughts?

And say I had the character do it, and wake up to all and themselves. How would it 'manifest' from a gameplay point of view? To be tongue in cheek for a moment, would I start counting reloads (put poetically of course) as part of the RP experiance? As dying/'falling asleep' and choosng to wake up again? Using TGM and TAI to show disain for supposedly powerful enemies? Though after reading a lot on here, CHIM is still at times a little difficult to put into perspective.

How would you think it would manifest from a first-person adventure and int he personality and thought processes of a character?

Basically I feel that after three hundred years and all the being and situatons they have experianced, its perhaps a little silly and detrimental to the character to still be 'normal' after it all. Albiet Dovahkiin and with a hefty list of titles over the years. Then again, there do seem to be other ancient beings and Altmer that don't sem to have 'got' it. Its just all the weird and wonderful experances that make me ponder it.
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Teghan Harris
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:12 am

CHIM manifests itself in the utility of the Elder Scrolls Construction Kit.
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Terry
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:10 pm

CHIM manifests itself in the utility of the Elder Scrolls Construction Kit.

So mod, Alixen!

MOD TO THE STARS!
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:41 am

CHIM is still at times a little difficult to put into perspective.

CHIM is perspective.

Also, difficult to maintain.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:21 am

Makar's Commentaries?

Chim is realizing you can do anything, because you are also everyone. People with Chim are negatively stereotyped as banterinf sophists and buzzing sociopaths, but they can be anyone. You don't need to ponder to have Chim. In fact, it's negative to separate one's mind from the body. It always ends in death, even if cults enshrine your skull. This is why MK won't be a true genius untill we hate him, because geniuses die alone. Write something we hate and the pop culture devours, but its actually endlessly labrinthian mystery.

Doesn't have to be paper, it could be your life. I'll still love u.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:57 pm

*mods a gigantic sweetroll tower to the stars*

Am I doing it rite?

On a more serious note, please continue. Interesting to read what people think.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:04 am

This is why MK won't be a true genius untill we hate him, because geniuses die alone.

Wrong. He won't be a true genius until he writes his opus with Girl Hortator's finger-bones.

*mods a gigantic sweetroll tower to the stars*

Am I doing it rite?

If ever there was a more appropriate concrete image for a sigil that at once means 'starlight', 'crown', and 'tower', than sweetroll, well...I haven't seen it.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:17 am

Imagine you (pc) are Vivec. There. Unless you enjoy a binary cosmography, then imagine you are Tiger Primus. There, you have Chim, because you have beheld Chim, and you know this.

Your ontology is solid as milk.

I should work for the FBI.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:48 pm

CHIM is what happens when you Wang Chung.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:14 pm

Pardon my thread-jacking, but I have a further question: if [CHIM] is, in a nutshell in a nutshell, realizing that you're a character in a video game (realizing that you're playing a video game?), then can your character really be said to have it during your first playthrough?

For example, say it's 2005. You've just finished your second play-through of Morrowind. You're browsing the forums a bit, and stumble across a [CHIM] discussion. You get a good sense of what it is, and decide to ascribe it to your character by way of the ~ key. A year later you buy Oblivion, managing to avoid spoilers. You boot up the game, make a new character (or a new incarnation of your Morrowind/Daggerfall/&c. character). Aside from simple mechanics, you have no idea what the game is going to offer you. Do you still have [CHIM]?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:46 am

Yes. Because CHIM is not exactly prescience or omniscience, but rather the complete comprehension necessary to bend the future and past to your will.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:18 pm

Okay sure, but even then, I'm still having a hard time figuring out to what extent you could ascribe [CHIM] to your character.

For instance, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim all have slightly different console commands. Say someone got into TES when Oblivion came out, then later decided to play through Morrowind. They come up to a tough enemy, say "np i got this lol" and then ~ + right-click + "kill". It doesn't work. Is [CHIM] lost? Or is [CHIM] realizing that you can save the game, look on intarnets, and find out that you need to type "sethealth 0"?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:26 am

Yes. That is to say, no.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:09 pm

Wouldn't it be tragic, if after all this your character zero summed. :blink:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:10 pm

I wouldn't think having CHIM would mean using ~ or the CK. Why bother? Everything is known to you, and can be changed with but a thought. Why continue adventuring when you know what's behind the next door? Why collect loot when you can just dream it? If I (that is to say, my character) got CHIM then I/he would become very bored, very fast. Once you can do anything, there is nothing left to do.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:14 am

CHIM is not exactly prescience or omniscience
Everything is known to you

DISSONANCE


Why continue adventuring when you know what's behind the next door? Why collect loot when you can just dream it? If I (that is to say, my character) got CHIM then I/he would become very bored, very fast. Once you can do anything, there is nothing left to do.

Maybe that's where love comes in. Maybe love means, even though they're there, not using things like TGM, TCL, and (fast travel?), choosing instead to play the game within the intended limitations.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:28 pm

Not everything is known to you. You have the power to know everything.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:49 am

CHIM is like:

You jelly?

Yeah, I'm jelly.

How jelly?

PSJJJJ jelly.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:28 am

CHIM is like:

You jelly?

Yeah, I'm jelly.

How jelly?

PSJJJJ jelly.

Now we must make Elder Scrolls versions of all the memes.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:33 am

Why you mad, Sheo? I ain't even mad though, Jyggy.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:57 pm

Achieve CHIM.

Become distracted.

Zero Sum.


Scumbag CHIM.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:15 am

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/256961-that-really-rustled-my-jimmies

Coincidentally, that's also what I always envisioned CHIM to be like.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:49 pm

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/256961-that-really-rustled-my-jimmies

Coincidentally, that's also what I always envisioned CHIM to be like.

You mean CHIMmies.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:03 pm

CHIM is perspective.

Also, difficult to maintain.
Like a consistently updated mod of decent size and scope? :nod:
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