Playing again - need help with CTD - Load order?

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:04 pm

Hey everyone, I never finished fallout3 before, due to CTD issues and mods, and frustration. I've owned the game, and now the GOTY edition the moment they came out, and I'm now giving it another whirl. Problem is, I'm getting REALLY consistent CTDs now again, where my first 6 hours in game were flawless. I've used BOSS for Fallout 3 to put my load order in check, however I have some files hassling me towards the end.

Without further rambling:

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
StreetLights.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
Project Beauty.esm
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
StreetLights - Wasteland.esp
Fellout-pipboylight.esp
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio40[M].esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
EVE.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
Fellout-PointLookout.esp
Fellout-Zeta.esp
megalight.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
Realistic Death Physics.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp

Total active plugins: 78
Total plugins: 78

I -think- my issues may be centered around EVE, as I crash pretty consistently using my laser rifle with WMK scope attached, though I don't know. Anyone able to anolyze if its a load order problem?

Thanks tons! I just don't know where else to turn at this point.
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Judy Lynch
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:00 pm

1. Delete:
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp


2. MAJOR CRASH REASON : 2 WEATHER MODS
Use Fellout or Enchanced Weather

3. Create Merged patch using FO3 Edit - IMPORTANT
4. Use FO3MasterUpdate - IMPORTANT
5. Enjoy your crashfree game
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Honey Suckle
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:19 pm

1. Delete:


2. MAJOR CRASH REASON : 2 WEATHER MODS
Use Fellout or Enchanced Weather

3. Create Merged patch using FO3 Edit - IMPORTANT
4. Use FO3MasterUpdate - IMPORTANT
5. Enjoy your crashfree game

I use both Fellout and Enhanced Weather and my runs smooth.BUT i see he has Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esp AND Radioactive Rain and Snow.esp.(if i read the reademe right you can only have 1 of those. I aslo use
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
And have not had crashes.BUT i do not see a FOIP Patch for FWE and MMM Either. Make sure you are using FOSE also.
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Jonathan Braz
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:29 pm

I have used EW and Fellout together and my game was very crashy. In Enchanced Weather readme you can read "Do not use with other weather mods like Fellout ...................."
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Czar Kahchi
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:20 pm

I use both Fellout and Enhanced Weather and my runs smooth.BUT i see he has Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esp AND Radioactive Rain and Snow.esp.(if i read the reademe right you can only have 1 of those. I aslo use
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

And have not had crashes.BUT i do not see a FOIP Patch for FWE and MMM Either. Make sure you are using FOSE also.


Those MMM files are already integrated into the FWE menu options. You may not crash, but you can free up files if nothing else :)

By the way, Project Beauty (latest update) isn't compatible with FWE right now (but a patch is being worked on).
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hannah sillery
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 10:21 pm

Move these above FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp:
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRealistic Death Physics.esp


Remove all of these, they shouldn't be in your load order:
Mart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.espMart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp



Read my http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ASdCGxH-MDdeZGRzNmtyNzdfNGhobTJ2dmZu&hl=en for several tips and tweaks to prevent crashes.
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