@Cell_666

Number #1, why am I even responding to someone with the mark of the beast in their tag?

Number #2: Have you even read the thread? Seriously dude, like any of it? I might let you slide on the 24 responses to the thread, but you didn't even read the original post bro, let alone the petition. Sheesh.

Read the whole thread, think out your answer and come to the table with a well thought out idea. At least show me the respect of researching the current conversation before dumping worthless comments like "CE3 + Console = LOL" and "Give it a rest ffs the editor will never run on consoles." Then to top it off with "Console jockeys buy a PC if you want to the editor." I'm sorry but it just makes you sound childish. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, just "think before post." Thanks a lot.

[quote]@Cell_666

Number #1, why am I even responding to someone with the mark of the beast in their tag?

Number #2: Have you even read the thread? Seriously dude, like any of it? I might let you slide on the 24 responses to the thread, but you didn't even read the original post bro, let alone the petition. Sheesh.

Read the whole thread, think out your answer and come to the table with a well thought out idea. At least show me the respect of researching the current conversation before dumping worthless comments like "CE3 + Console = LOL" and "Give it a rest ffs the editor will never run on consoles." Then to top it off with "Console jockeys buy a PC if you want to the editor." I'm sorry but it just makes you sound childish. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, just "think before post." Thanks a lot. [/quote]

I thought we all agreed that Obama is the antichrist... 2012 election year, anyone? xD

Whats the point of making a craptastic map editor on consoles ( Very dumbed down map editor) when you already have the sandbox editor on pc which is 10000000x better
Its like if Farcry 2 has a map editor EVERY single game has to have one too lol
this is my opinion

@kesuga7
Because some people don't like the thought of sitting in a dark corner hunching over a PC yelling at their poor 60 year old mother to get them a sandwich.

I apologise to anyone that's offended by that, but it is a general stereotype that goes through peoples heads at times.

I'm typing this through a laptop with the sun on my back -
before anyone points out irony.

"its like 10000000x better" doesn't seem like a well thought out point to me.

Not everyone wants to spend thousands on a computer just for the sake of playing games - that's for bills & food.
Again, sorry for any offense.

[quote]@Cell_666

Number #1, why am I even responding to someone with the mark of the beast in their tag?

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Ignoring the fact that you yourself have presented no factual argument against the bandwagon he jumped on, someone with a name declaring them to be evil in the sight of god shouldn't whine about 666 in a username. Besides which, he put it there to get reactions from people like you. He wins.

Hey guys,

We're happy for you to discuss the possibilities of an editor but please note that we haven't made any announcements on this for PC or consoles, this means that starting a petition really isn't going to change anything right now because there's nothing to petition for or against.

In terms of news on this subject - when there is something that can be shared you can be sure it'll be posted on gamesas.com first!

Tom

[quote]i hope we'll get the CE3
its soo powerful
and its a punsh in the face of the PC modding community[/quote]

I don't mean to be so personal, but it's people like you (I'm assuming) is the reason consoles shouldn't have a map editor.

I don't want to generalise, but everyone on X360 is a childish douche.

Great maps would be buried amidst a pile of awful 'FUUUUUUUUU, OLOLOO L CRYENGINE 3 OLL' full of exploding stuff balanced on a huge pencs shaped rock. I'd be disappointed if there was no public map editor/SDK for anyone though.

+1 DrWhoop.

Also, I'm sure Crytek, ever supportive of the PC modding community, is ALL about punching them in the face. Oh wait... maybe not.

@JingleHell Your just going to have to trust me when I say there is an obvious difference between you and your teen angst devil loving friends and a man who has served in the military for 12 years and has been called an Infidel by people I was trying to help with medical care. Check the Linkedin:

http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=hb_tab_pro

As for addressing his concern, it appears you did not read the thread as well.
This is what he said:[quote]Give it a rest ffs the editor will never run on consoles.[/quote]
So I'll give you the cliff notes.
1) There are many Editors on console.
2) Not asking for a Sandbox with AI, simply an optimized console version, which has been done on multiple consoles(PS2, PS3, 360) on multiple games (Far Cry(Cryengine), Far Cry 2, Halo, Timesplitters) as well as other genres (Little big planet and Trials HD which are both platformer)
3) This is absolutely possible from a programming stand point. The tools are there, though compiling and linking would take longer.
4) This is an opinion poll only, not a debate on capabilities.
5) Stay positive in this thread.

Honestly I believe there are some serious reading comprehension issues that are becoming a pattern with you. This is what you posted:[quote]Wait so, since Farcry and Farcry 2 (Cryengine) had one you consider good, you expect that if Crysis2 (Cryengine) had one, it might not be good?[/quote]Where on earth did you find any thought remotely even hinting at this? It's only funny because I clearly stated the opposite:[quote]I for one, have seen the amazing work that can be done on a console map editor and can only dream of the exciting content that can be created by tapping even a fraction of the Cryengine 3 and the content of Crysis 2. [/quote]In reality, Cell_666 and JingleHell, you guys should be embarrassed by your comments. Take it back to the drawing board and figure out a way to be a productive member of the forums. Thanks

@JingleHell: In case you are signed into a linkedin account, use this link instead: http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=65594353&authToken=NokL&authType=name
Thanks.

@Cry-Tom: Point taken, though since nothing has been confirmed or denied, there is still a possible "No" in the distant future. So we wanted to take the initiative while there is still time to make a small difference. The petition is not meant as opposition to anything, I hope it does not come off that way. I know that when design choices are made, they are more or less set in stone and I wouldn't post this petition if Crytek confirmed that there would be no editor on console. It just isn't my style. It's here instead, because there is no word, and launch is right around the corner. There are many of us (44 as of right now anyway) out here on the forums holding our proverbial breath.

Point is, it's not a dig, Crysis 2 is going to rock beyond anything that has ever rocked before, that part is clear. This thread is just something to say that we care about this.

[quote]In my opinion, there have been only a few really great editors on consoles (Far Cry, Far Cry 2, Time Splitters, Halo) so it would not be easy. Is it something that Crytek can include so late in development? Is Crytek already working on one or have they ruled the idea out ages ago?[/quote]

To start, I have no intention of wasting time looking you up or rebutting your pathetic cookie-cutter online insults.

Just to bring back your little reading comprehension jab.

You mention enjoying editors from Crytek previously. You state it would not be easy. You ask if it can be included.

Obviously, my remark was to point out that your stated question flew blatantly in the face of your stated opinion.

To explain how I draw this conclusion, let me bring to your attention the words "...there have been only a few really great editors on consoles (Far Cry, Far Cry 2..." And "...so it would not be easy." Clearly, stating that you have known Crytek to be capable of a good editor for the console before.

Taken in context, "...so it would not be easy." flies in the face of this, conveying an assumption that Crytek does not in fact know how to release a good console editor, or that you expect them to have significant difficulty releasing a functional one.

I know I care about it enough to start wearing the petition shirt to work and hand out flier a my local grocery store. Ha haa, all jokes aside, a larger portion of that growing number are very well known established mappers.

If each of those put out 10 maps thats 230 solid fan loved strong contributions. We meant it when we said we were looking for ways to propel the medium. It will be great to destroy each other in the multiplayer we have seen so far in released videos.

Most of us are as competitive in the game as we are designing them. To have another arena to sculpt for would be AWESOME!

[quote][quote]Give it a rest ffs the editor will never run on consoles.

Wait so, since Farcry and Farcry 2 (Cryengine) had one you consider good, you expect that if Crysis2 (Cryengine) had one, it might not be good?

I for one, have seen the amazing work that can be done on a console map editor and can only dream of the exciting content that can be created by tapping even a fraction of the Cryengine 3 and the content of Crysis 2. [/quote]

@JingleHell Your just going to have to trust me when I say there is an obvious difference between you and your teen angst devil loving friends and a man who has served in the military for 12 years and has been called an Infidel by people I was trying to help with medical care. Check the Linkedin:

http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=hb_tab_pro

As for addressing his concern, it appears you did not read the thread as well.
This is what he said:















Honestly I believe there are some serious reading comprehension issues that are becoming a pattern with you. This is what you posted:

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LOL. I laughed at those comments also, because it made no sense.

@JingleHell: It makes sense that you would have no interest in researching my credentials considering your poor research habits caused you to over look the fact that all Far Cry's for console were developed and published by Ubisoft including FC: Instincts, FC: Instincts Evolution, FC: Instincts: Predator and Far Cry 2. Far Cry 3 is currently being developed by Ubisoft as well. When FC was liscensed to Ubisoft, it became FC instincts and Shawn LeBlanc of Ubisoft designed the map editor. Crytek has never made an editor for console. So I hope you now understand why your comments are dumbfounding me and others.[quote]Besides which, he put it there to get reactions from people like you. He wins.[/quote]It seems you subscribe to the same philosophy. I have read your comments in the other forums and you have a proven habit of posturing. I'd like to see you turn that proactive energy into something more positive. After all, it appears we both believe Crytek is capable of developing a good Editor UI, so instead of pointing out my "perceived" miscalculations incorrectly, add to the conversation as many others have with compelling ideas and suggestions. Turn that frown upside down.

[quote][quote]Besides which, he put it there to get reactions from people like you. He wins.[/quote]

@JingleHell: It makes sense that you would have no interest in researching my credentials considering your poor research habits caused you to over look the fact that all Far Cry's for console were developed and published by Ubisoft including FC: Instincts, FC: Instincts Evolution, FC: Instincts: Predator and Far Cry 2. Far Cry 3 is currently being developed by Ubisoft as well. When FC was liscensed to Ubisoft, it became FC instincts and Shawn LeBlanc of Ubisoft designed the map editor. Crytek has never made an editor for console. So I hope you now understand why your comments are dumbfounding me and others.[/quote]

Fair enough on the Ubisoft point, I was under the mistaken impression that Crytek had developed the games since they were made with CryEngine. Next time I will do my homework, I despise being wrong,
likely due to being able to admit it.

As to your credentials, I'm sure if I listed mine you wouldn't bother to believe me, so I wouldn't waste my time reading yours.

As to accusations of posturing, I would suggest looking back on your antagonizing comment about someone else's choice of screen name before trying to go there, if I were you. If you check carefully, I fully support the move to consoles, despite being a PC gamer. I actually tend to side with the console players in those debates.

Again, I apologize for being misinformed about the publisher for farcry.

[quote]I know I care about it enough to start wearing the petition shirt to work and hand out flier a my local grocery store. Ha haa, all jokes aside, a larger portion of that growing number are very well known established mappers.

If each of those put out 10 maps thats 230 solid fan loved strong contributions. We meant it when we said we were looking for ways to propel the medium. It will be great to destroy each other in the multiplayer we have seen so far in released videos.

Most of us are as competitive in the game as we are designing them. To have another arena to sculpt for would be AWESOME![/quote]

Can i get a t-shirt.... (i had a look at your video`s....looking good)

The editor isnt made to run on console. im sure it can performance wise but all developing work is done on a PC and ported realtime to consoles(livecreate) so crytek would have to edit their editor, spend money on it and dont get any of it back, its best they support people making maps for consoles on pcs

Have you read the topic?

Its a big sellig point for me so your statement is not correct.
And making it import from pc will limit the editor on pc`s becouse it would have to meet the limits of consoles don`t you think?

did i sign it yet......signed and where is my T-SHIRT

I would hope people wouldn't sign up for T-Shirts and instead sign the petition because it makes sense. But, I suppose I could get some T-Shirts to those who can prove they signed the petition, are willing to pay shipping, and give a complete stranger their address.

... maybe ...

[quote]Have you read the topic?

Its a big sellig point for me so your statement is not correct.
And making it import from pc will limit the editor on pc`s becouse it would have to meet the limits of consoles don`t you think?

did i sign it yet......signed and where is my T-SHIRT[/quote]

I agree, map editors is like a new market for consoles, just like multiplayer was a decade ago. Its the fourth part to video games these days.

Singleplayer
Multiplayer
Map Editor
Co-Op

This makes it a big selling point especially when it has to compete against other games featuring map editors.

[quote]This makes it a big selling point especially when it has to compete against other games featuring map editors.[/quote]

other Great Games. :]

[quote]I would hope people wouldn't sign up for T-Shirts and instead sign the petition because it makes sense. But, I suppose I could get some T-Shirts to those who can prove they signed the petition, are willing to pay shipping, and give a complete stranger their address.

... maybe ...[/quote]

Just come to Amsterdam and i will make it worth the trip

I agree, map editors is like a new market for consoles, just like multiplayer was a decade ago. Its the fourth part to video games these days.

Singleplayer
Multiplayer
Map Editor
Co-Op

This makes it a big selling point especially when it has to compete against other games featuring map editors.[/quote]

I agree 100% whit that...its the next best thing on consoles.
Now we are stuck on fc2 in all its glorie.
I still play fc2 after all these years thanks to the editor.

@yoz303303 - What Console do you play FC2 on? I sent a list to Ubisoft a while ago for things they should improve. Maybe I should start a thread here in case Crysis2 has one? I suggested some easy-ish improvements that would make my life as a Mapper much easier.

Does anyone here play Far Cry 2 on the PC? Its still pretty alive and kicking on the PC, and tons of custom maps to be played. In fact, the only stock map that's run is Last Bastion for Capture the Diamond.

Also neokinesis, have your maps been ported over to various versions of Far Cry 2, or do you only have it for one system?