Please help with Transition crashes & understanding bash

Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:24 am

Hi

I crash on transition alot. 90% of my crashes come from transitioning and other than that my game runs really smooth. My PC is brand new and handles a maxed out oblivion with no issues really. I use BOSS for my load order and it sorts as follows.

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Better Oblivion Sorting Software Log

Special Mod Detection
FCOM detected.
OOO detected.
Better Cities detected.


Recognised And Re-ordered Mod Files
Oblivion.esm
?Note: Masterlist Revision: 2737
All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, Stats}}
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34 Beta 5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm [Version 2.4]

FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}
Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5]

CURP_Controller.esm [Version 2.6]

Toaster Says Share v3.esm [Version 3.27]

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537"
?Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710"
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] ?Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?Note: For russian version GOTY please move this esp before Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp (for UOP quest fixes).
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] ?Note: When using Francesco's and/or FCOM, use the non-MOBS version of this patch and the standalone MOBS/OMOBS mods.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] ?Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp ?Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.Stats}}
FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.
?Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package.
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.
LoadingScreens.esp [Version 1.0] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics}}
All Natural.esp [Version 1.3] ?Note: Required for All Natural. Make sure this is active and not just imported into your Bashed Patch.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Climate}}
All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] ?Note: Required for All Natural SI support. Make sure this is active and not just imported into your Bashed Patch.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Climate}}
All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Scripts}}
All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics, Scripts}}
?Note: Do not use with original Real Lights mod.
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Reznod_Mannequin.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Living Economy.esp [Version 3.62] ?Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one.
Living Economy - Items.esp [Version 3.62] ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Cutthroat Merchants.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.11] ?OOO Specific Note: Move this after OOO if you desire initial city map markers a la vanilla.
Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2.esp ?Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.
?Note: Old, Update to V2a+.
DLCHorseArmor.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Scripts}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Owner}}
DLCOrrery.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

DLCVileLair.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics}}
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev, Invent, Relev}}
DLCSpellTomes.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Relev}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
Classic-Wizard-Robes-UL.esp [Version 1.01]

Classic-Wizard-Robes-U.esp

TT-EquipableBeards.esp

Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp [Version 91]

DLCThievesDen.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?Note: Obsolete. Upgrade to UOP Supplementals 3.3.4 or higher. Then delete this file and rebuild the bashed patch.
Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics}}
?Requires: 'FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp'.
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [Version 1.1] ?Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Relev, Delev}}
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Relev, Stats}}
?Requires: either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.
FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev, Relev, Stats}}
?Note: Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both.
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34 Beta 5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackagesForceAdd, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Spells, Actors.SpellsForceAdd, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev, Relev}}
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] ?!!! FCOM INSTALLATION ERROR: Delete and use 'FCOM_LessRats.esp'.
Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]

Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b1]

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Invent, Scripts, Stats}}
OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34 Beta 5]

KvatchAftermath.esp [Version 7.8] ?Requires: FCOM_KvatchAftermath.esp
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp [Version 1.0]

(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp [Version 9.0] ?Note: Use 'SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp' compatibility patch if using Unique Landscapes' Lost Coast.
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DragonSlayer.esp

TheElderCouncil.esp [Version 2.5] ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp [Version 1]

Valley_View_Estate.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCFrostcrag.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur.
?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags
Knights.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages, Factions}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages, Relations}}
?Requires: 'FCOM_OMG.esp' or 'FCOM_OMG' and 'FCOM_OMGSRT.esp'.
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
MannimarcoRevisited.esp ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:NpcFaces}}
xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Music, C.Water}}
xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] ?Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]

xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Water}}
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] ?Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills esp
xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 1.1.1]

xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]

xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0]

Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics, Scripts}}
?Note: Make sure you have v3.0.1 or later, which removes a CTD bug with the Harrada root.
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] ?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Short Grass V3.esp

Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Relations, Invent}}
Disenchant.esp

MidasSpells.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Invent}}
?Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp

Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp [Version 3.11]

DAConan.esp ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Hair, Eyes}}
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Body-Size-M, Body-Size-F, R.Relations}}
Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.5]

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]

Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5]

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5]

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Water}}
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Water}}
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:C.Water}}
Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp [Version 4.7.0]

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.9.0]

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp ?Note: Respawn and Timescale mod
?Note: Use only one Respawn or Timescale mod
QTdof.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp





Unrecogised Mod Files
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: Conan3.esp

Unknown mod file: Minotaur Companion.esp

Unknown mod file: BuyUmbacanoManor.esp


Done.
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I also have Wrye Bash installed but I'm running the default patch that comes with it. I've tried rebuilding the patch by right clicking on it in BASH and rebuilding but it never works. By "never works" I mean that after rebuilding the patch I CTD when launching the game. After a few attempts I gave up on it because at first my game ran fairly ok. While I did see more trans crashes than I thought I should they were managable for the most part. Recently though they have been coming every 6-10 transitions. I've installed programs like Crash Prevention and uninstalled with no recognizable difference being made. I've cleaned saves of bloat and removed several mods. Stilll though I keep getting these crashes. When they realy started getting bad I removed my music folder from the Data folder and that helped for a few days but then they came back. I've also started creating new saves for every save but spent the other 130 hours using quick save and auto save.

I'm just before giving up because I'm out of ideas. I'm sure bashed patch may help but I can't seem to get a patch built that works. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Josh

- modder from way back when and creator of Dragon Invasion II, Anvil Bay Expansion and Windspear Tower.
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