Please keep my faith in games alive Skyrim... : Othor Games

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:25 pm

I think I'm a good example of the type of person Bethesda needs to try really, really hard to disappoint. I'm a sandbox fanatic, and I honestly couldn't care less how minimal the RPG aspects are as long as the world is rewarding to explore. That's not to say I don't like RPGs, I do, but I like sandbox games more. If a game is going to be an amazing sandbox and a decent or sub-par RPG, then I'm fine with that. Where I draw the line is games that are actually great RPGs, but boring and unrewarding sandboxes, which is why I was so disappointed in New Vegas. If that game was linear and based on a node system it'd likely turn out to be one of my favorite linear RPGs. But the fact that it instead chose to be a bad sandbox game really soured the experience for me.

Don't get me wrong, if Bethesda today announced "We've actually cut the skills in Skyrim down to 3 and are only letting you play as a human," I'd be incredibly upset. But if they still managed to make the world as amazing as Fallout 3 and Morrowind's world was to explore, well... I'd probably buy it.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:21 pm

You will learn very quickly that according to the internet, change is horrible. Presenting something differently is horrible. Yet the internet cries out in unison for something different. It's like a paradox.

To complement Gamgee's earlier TvTropes post: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TheyChangedItNowItsvcks/VideoGames

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:28 am

You sure about that?

http://digg.com/news/gaming/bioware_forum_bans_affect_access_to_your_game

^^The guy in this story lost access to DA2's signature edition and all DLCS, which he PAID for, because he criticized the game on the forums. When questioned, Bioware employee Stanley Woo said:

"Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."

That's pretty funny. It's cold, but it is justice in some form.

That is not just evil, its illegal.
If I were that guy Id contact a lawyer. To deny people access to a game they payed for is.. evil and illegal.

It's not illegal, because he agreed to there Terms of Service, or EULA, or whatever includes the clause that says they can do that.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:14 pm

That's pretty funny. It's cold, but it is justice in some form.

It's not illegal, because he agreed to there Terms of Service, or EULA, or whatever includes the clause that says they can do that.

He was unbanned according to the Bioware mods

Btw: He was banned because he say profanities, not because he complained about them and their ways of works

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:28 pm

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It's not illegal, because he agreed to there Terms of Service, or EULA, or whatever includes the clause that says they can do that.

They cannot do whatever they want. Those vague phrases in TOSs and EULAs call for fairness and courts can decide what is legal or illegal.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:19 am

You sure about that?

http://digg.com/news/gaming/bioware_forum_bans_affect_access_to_your_game

^^The guy in this story lost access to DA2's signature edition and all DLCS, which he PAID for, because he criticized the game on the forums. When questioned, Bioware employee Stanley Woo said:

"Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."

No, he didn't. Remember that people very seldom tell the truth about what they did that got them in trouble. We've seen some of the reasons people give as to why they got in trouble here when they post on other forums the mods also go to, and it is face-palm/heavy sigh inducing at the best, blood-pressure raising at the worst. That person admitted he had done some other things besides making that one statement. It was the "other things" that caused the problem. For what its worth, which probably isn't much, here's the Community rep's post about it.

Chris Priestly wrote...

AlesMrak wrote...

Banning paying customer from playing his game for saying something like : Bioware have sold their soul to the EA devil, is just nuts ...

That was not why he was banned. He was banned for using profanity in a different post.

Take a look around. Many people call us names. They aren't banned.

This guy triggered an alert for his profanity and, due to an error, was unfairly banned.

Still, hopefully it is sorted now. {smilie}

{smilie}

Wait ... DA2 was bad? I was planning on getting it! What made it bad?

On topic: Don't worry. Bethesda knows not to make crappy games (considering they only make one every couple years, not basically every year like some developers). They know what they're doing.

There is an active thread about Dragon Age: Origins, Awakening, and DA2 here in Community Discussion. You can get different opinions about it; including reasons why some like it, and some don't.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:35 pm

Lol. You bought Dragon Age?

There are two good RPG series.

The Elder Scrolls
Fallout

The End. In my opinion there are plenty of 'decent' rpgs out there, but they all look up to the Elder Scrolls. Seriously I wish there was a game that could compete, so I had more to play in between TES and FO releases.

Lol. <_< I really loved Dragon Age: Origins. And I could never make myself finish Fallout 2.

Funny how some people have different opinions. As long as they post within the forum rules, they can say they like or don't like something.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:46 pm

I think if you're looking for someone who takes their time to develop games, you're right with Bethesda. If you're looking for someone who won't sacrifice stuff just because some people are too stupid to get it, you might be wrong though.

Still don't get why everybody is so upset about DA2. Yeah, its lack of polish shows from time to time, but it's a nice adventure of the kind where you don't save the world from Dreadlord Stereos of Typos and his Minions of Doom. Nothing is really cut, it's just presented differently from the predecessor - gameplay-wise.

Probably because they trashed the story they already told in DA:O and Awakening, They took needed changes to the ridiculous extreme, ruined the dialogue with the wheel o'hints, threw elements from other games into it, and tossed it out the door whether it was done or not. But that is off-topic for this thread.

I am really looking forward to Skyrim. I think the devs have heard the complaints about Oblivion and they won't go to the ridiculous extremes trying to fix them while keeping the story.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:20 am

will this card be able to run it.

If not, will it if i overclock it a bit

(its cheap there because it is refurbished)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:45 am

Too bad that Fallout and TES wasn the only awesome RPG I played, maybe I became a heretic now

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