Can OP's PC even handle the hardware power you need for 3D vision?

I heard that 3D vision cuts the FPS in half.

Sir calm down. :excl:
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I can live without 3-D.

No. NO NONONONONONONONONONONONON!!!!!!

NO 3D!!!!!

Bethesda, I am hoping you folks don't work with Nvidia to make this a 3D Vision ready game. Things like wearing stupid glasses in the game are some of things that most gamers hate and will never enable 3D. Although there are some people that will like 3D, it is an fad technology and a game like Skyrim couldn't be a showcase for such stupid technology and could only annoy people.

...or not.

I would still like a option were I can turn it off if they do add it I never once said they shouldn't add it. You have to also consider people with disabilities I have a friend who can't see 3d.

The thing about 3D is.... it just seems childish. Like when someone see's something real shiny and can't stop looking at it. They invented it, knowing like all other fads and gimmicks, that the masses would be drawn to it because, like the iPad, it is new, shiny and "it's like we are in the future"! No thanks. I'd prefer not to be drawn to the bug zapper as a mindless, obedient fly (ie not to be drawn to buying a 3000 dollar tv and 150 dollars worth of stupid glasses so that those inventors can sit on their piles of money and pull our puppet strings with more vigor and humor)

I said gimmick and fad again :laugh:

I'd say no thanks. For selfish reaons to be honest, I don't have a 3D T.V. and likely won't have one by Nov next year either and I'd prefer the devs to spend all their time on other things. Guess I've been labeled as 'naughty' by Santa. Mind you if I'd paid out for a 3D T.V. I'd want 3D TESV....

I certainly wouldn't mind 3D display as an option. Not that I care all that much. The first and last time I saw any media in 3D was like 15 years ago in a theme park, I think it was a short movie involving space and Michael Jackson and stuff flying at you at high speed. Looking back I'm very much surprised 3D technology took this long to get 'mainstream' when it was available all this time.

ok if you do not have a 3d setup this does not effect you so why complain? all we are asking of Bethesda is to take time to make sure that their code is compatible with the 3d vision (and possible iz3d) code so those of us who have it get a good experience. its not like they have to rewrite their entire game to make it 3d compatible, they just have to do some test and make a few changes were needed. it is not taking away from those who don't use 3d or can't see 3d. it is not going to force you use 3d if you don't want too. its like adding compatibility for a controller, just because you don't use one does not mean others wouldn't want too.


for those of you saying its a "gimmick" or a "fad", you don't understand what stereoscopic gaming is like. most of you are think its like the movies but its not. movies usually use the gimmick of popping out of the screen which is nothing more then a cheap trick and not what 3d really is. Most movies are also converted from 2d to 3d making them look really poor. But with 3d gaming all the information is there everything is already rendered in 3d, what the drivers do it make two views from different angles (one for each eye), then displays them so that only one eye may see each view, technique for this varies depending on the technology used. With stereo 3d gaming you can adjust the views until you find them comfortable and achieve the effect you desire.




Please, Bethesda take the time to make it so those of us who embrace 3d technologies can enjoy your game in the most immersive way possible,

Doesn't really matter to me. If they do, cool. If not, so what?

Besides, not all of us have 3DTVs or 120hz computer monitors. Or even the extremely expensive shutter glasses for that matter.

On a slightly different note, I really don't see 3D lasting unless they remove the glasses from the equation and do something like what the 3DS does. However the hell that would work...

No. I'd rather not use Skyrim as a testing ground, it has been too long of wait to have a potential disaster. I'd rather they focus on gameplay and story.

They also could make it look actually good.
3D is terrible, escpecially in gaming.

Crash and Burn 3D crash and burn.

I feel that time and resources could be better spent on the core elements of the game, AI, bugs, features etc as other have said rather than implementing a feature which has little purpose. Atleast for now...

I totally agree with everything that shiro321 said.

Bethesda please just consider how you implement effects in this engine so that those of us with 3d setups can really appreciate this game even more.

I've been gaming for 28 years since I had my first computer (a ZX Specturm 48k) and 3d done right is the most immersive gaming technology I've ever experienced.
Even my Mum+Dad (!!) were impressed when they they saw what it does to games and it's only a tick box in the driver options, it's not 'forced' onto anybody.

It does have pros and cons but it is a real progressive step in gaming and it would be a real shame not to be forward thinking in respect of the development of this game.

Yes, 3D has been around in various guises for a long time, but things have genuinely changed now as the technoloy has caught up to the point where it really an deliver a great experience.
Framerates do get roughly cut in half, but what else is all that horsepower PC gamers have under the hood these days being used for? Just running ported console games at higher and higher levels of AA??
Most mainstream current generation graphics card have enough rendering power to cope with 3d and this just wasn't the case a couple of years ago.

I appreciate it's not perfect for eveyone but just to say 3d is a fad is a backwards almost luddite statement. I love all the TES games and oblvion in 3d is stunning, as is fallout 3.
I want this game to be great and I can understand some of the concerns, but decisions made in the engine aren't going to have any effect on the people writing the story now are they.

Thank you!

If it takes the 5 hours and one developer someone mentioned early in this thread, hey fine go for it as an option. If it takes real development time I say no to the fairly lame 3d fad. Oh and I have played games with it, and it adds crap to my experience and if anything I think it makes it less immersive. To me the objects in the 3d environment feel separate from the environment when 3d is enabled with the fancy goggles and screen my friend has, It is like a constant stream of bad blue screening effects.

I like how certain games now (Metro 2033) have 3d options for those who are endowed with supreme enough wealth to own a 3d monitor at this point, but can still be turned off for those (like myself) who cannot afford this pricey technology

There really needs to be a poll for this topic. Please consider creating one...

3D is a gimmick and a waste of time. No.

3D is a gimmick, keep it away from my ES games.

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I do not see where all the hate is coming from. I have never played on or seen a 3D enabled game in action, but I do not think it is a bad thing. If they decide to put in multiplayer.... that would kill the game more than 3D ever could. There are people, like me, who already wear glasses just to see stuff and it is not such a bother when you get used to it. I imagine that people reacted to shoes the same way, "UGH! feet blister and itch! Noone use ever again!"

I have to agree that 3D Vision Ready Skyrim would be great.

The best 3D games I've played by far have been Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.

The reason these games are best is because they're perfectly made for exploration - and 3d adds that much more atmosphere to the exploration (for me, at least.)

But they all have slight annoyances because they weren't made with 3d in mind.

For example, Oblivion looks great in 3D, but I have to turn off shadows and water reflections and download the NVidia Stereo sky fix mod.

A lot of the people who don't like the idea don't seem to understand that even the old games are 90% 3D Vision Ready without any extra effort. And making it 3d ready in no way takes away from the 2d experience. Look at the list of 3d Ready games http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-3d-games.html and you'll see that making them 3d ready does not hurt the 2d experience

All I can say is, if you know someone with 3d Vision and Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, go to their place and try it out. It's amazingly immersive. It's hard to explain without seeing it for yourself.

If a little extra dev time could be spent testing shadows, skybox and water reflections to call the game '3d Vision Ready' (which, I'd guess, NVidia would lend some dev time to, if required) it would be perfect.

Except I'm sure not everybody can afford high-end PC's. I know my laptop struggles at times with OB and I can barely hold 30 FPS on a moderately modded game in areas. Some people literally cannot afford to have that already low FPS cut in half.