Please no more Pipboys!

Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:28 am

I also sympathise with the OP to a degree, but we all make choices, and sometimes we can regret making them.

A case in point, the laptop in my sig will be setting me back the equivalent of $4,000 by the end of September. Even though the spec is mind blowing, six months after I buy it, there will be better laptops on offer for less money. But the way I see it, I will still own a beast of a laptop.

In a similar way, there are many many people who wish that they could have gotten hold of a Pip-Boy edition but couldn't. So you should still count yourself lucky. Or you could always sell it on if it bothers you that much.

EDIT: I didn't mean for that to come across as elitist, I'm actually getting an xbox one as well so my kids can play it too :)

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Beth Belcher
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:50 am

I know how aging laptop syndrome feels man. Got mine for about 1k in 2013 and it's relatively underpowered now. Such is life!

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Tanya
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:41 pm

Lol...

I can only imagine how different this thread would be if there were none up for sale on E-bay.

You should just not want them to make anymore because they're specifically limited edition items, not because you finally got your hands on one and don't want to feel bad about your purchase.

What about people who spent the first few days bouncing around site after site trying to find a place to place an order before the stock ran out? Or the people who kept an eye out the next few days after who got lucky enough to get a pre-order on one of the several re-stocks?

No? It's now (as far as you're concerned) that Bethesda should stick to their word, because you (out of everyone else that missed them) managed to secure yours?

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:43 am

Sounds kinda like sunk-cost fallacy. And yes, this is selfish.

Regardless of whether or not they made more, you have spend that $360 and have one. Making more literally does nothing to you, but helps other people.

Yeah it can be frustrating to see things go cheap after spending a lot but - not only is hindsight always 20/20 - scalping is illegal, and honestly, if you were willing to wait a year you could've bought that Pip-Boy for like, fifty bucks second-hand anyway. Seems like in both cases the problem here is impatience.

Bethesda is not responsible for your (poor) decision to buy from a third party, and they are under no obligation to 'punish' other players because you'd feel bad about shopping from an illegal source.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:03 pm

Ugh. Why did you have to go and support those filthy scalpers?

Besides, there are people over the internet who would charge only around $100 to have them make a custom Pip-Boy. You got scammed badly.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:32 am



It boggles my mind that we are a race so impatient and materialistic that some people actually consider buying from a scalper.

Nothing wrong with materialism, I love my things. But I've never wanted something so bad that I'd ever consider paying a dollar more than suggested retail.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:05 pm

Edit: disregard this, accidentally double posted
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:57 am

My na?veté of how limited edition items work made me lose my chance of getting a Pipboy Edition. I regret not getting one when it was first available. I thought it'd be available now and had been saving up to a point where money loss would be no big deal. But I lost my chance and I'm very upset about it. So, does anyone know if these will temporarily hit the shelves again or if I'll get another chance, perhaps? I don't want to preorder the game until I know for a fact that I'm not going to get the Pipboy Edition. And I mean for the ordinary price. I want it badly, but not enough to spend £300 or so...
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:48 am

As I said in response to another person, there are people who make 3D printed Pip-Boys on sites such as Etsy for around $100.

Also, I would assume that more official Pip-Boy editions will be available if stores cancel some orders based on them seeing how many were ordered by scalpers. And if not, I predict there will be quite a few circulating around Ebay for a cheaper price than $360.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:41 am

I like pip-boys, sad I can't afford one.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:52 am

I thought this was a thread about "Please no more crappy Pip-boy 3000 designs and go back to the superior Pip-Boy 2000!" stuff, which I totally agree, it looks beyond stupid, then I read the OP's main post....so much disappointment.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:11 pm

Ive been in similar situations in my life when Ive wanted something sooooo sooooo badly. The hunt you went through searching for it to restock, I bet it was an addiction. The more you searched the more you wanted it. Hell, I bet your a prime canidate to be a drug addict if your not already struggling with it or in recovery.

Anyways, Ive been there and bought that. Luckily it wasnt ever 3x the items worth but Im sure all the crap I had to have added up to 10x that amount. Know what? Half the stuff I dont remember and is sitting god knows where. The other half I totaly regret buying and dont know what I was thinking once that initial "must have" phase wore off.

You might not ever regret buying it, and youll eventually recover from being broke and get more money. But you will without a doubt look at that piece of crap you had to have with no joy or emotion that you once felt when you NEEDED to have it. Hopefully in a few years time youll be able to sell it off on ebay for profit for your next MUST HAVE ITEM!!!!!!

Or just look for any discrepancy in that ebay posting and use it as a get out of jail free card to cancel your order. Definetly sit on it and see if you need to have it once a few montha have past. Maybe the allure will ware off and youll come to your senses. Best of luck and keep your chin up dude.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:16 pm

Don't be so sure about the prices staying high and/or increasing. Collectable or special edition prices often get inflated by the short term frenzy of people (including some resllers/speculators who are way over-speculating) dying to get one, then later "correct" so to speak. This is actually quite common specifically in gaming. Just one recent example, the special editions of the New 3DS, especially the Majora one. The eBay prices went crazy for a bit, and although there was a second wave it wasn't big. It wasn't as limited as this Pip-Boy but regardless the prices now are way down from the peak of the frenzy, around half.

There's still a chance you could get one from a regular store as well. If you check retailer websites frequently you might snag cancellations. Stores like Best Buy don't charge credit cards until the item ships, so checking right around that time might be a better chance as some cards might get declined.

If you want to back out of the eBay purchase, you probably can since afaik all these auctions for Pip-Boys are technically in violation of policy, it's just that buyers like you know the deal and so no one reports the violation. I double checked, and unless I misunderstand it, the policy says any pre-sale item must ship within 30 days of payment.

I tried to post the link but I'm not allowed, after a certain number of posts I guess? Search this "ebay presale policy" on Google and it should be the first result.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:07 am


My original post was literally about this before going "whoops" and changing it.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:29 am

I can't say I'd be overly disappointed if they made more. Like you said, it IS advertised as a limited edition so it makes sense that no more would be made just to satisfy the demand. I DO really wish Bethesda had charge more like $200/$250 like some others have gone for in the past (maybe not Bethesda's products; I know I've seen one before, but can't remember where, so I could be wrong), that way the supply and demand would have been a little more fair and not sold out nearly as quickly. I'd love if the gaming industry figured out a way to make a contract that anyone who buys a pre-order cannot sell it for at least a year or something, that way most of those jerks that bought these and are making 200% profit wouldn't be able to do so. I know that will never happen, but I like to live in a dream world.

I thought I'd mentioned that I was absolutely one of those persons who checked diligently every day in hopes of getting one of the extremely rare preorders that have popped back up. I literally would check any chance I'd get; usually about 10+ times a day. I even got three of my friends (who don't even have anything to do with gaming... couldn't risk them getting it and last second deciding not to honor their agreement to give it to me for $10 for their time) to check regularly in order to supplement my attempts.

I did everything I could, and after a month of checking nonstop and finally realizing that I had no chance in hell, I decided I needed to take advantage of any alternative purchasing means in order to meet my goal. While I fully realized after researching alternative Pip-boy suppliers was MUCH cheaper and a decent option, I ultimately think that the preorder will be worth it, so long as there aren't future opportunities afforded for more $120 Pip-boy edition sales. Gotta keep in mind that the $120 includes the game and a few other things besides the Pip-Boy (I'm super excited about the case for some reason, probably due to my hoarding tendencies in the game and how giddy I get when I see a crate or box that I can loot in the game, hoping it will have something rare and awesome so I can hoard that too, never selling anything muahahaha!). So, even if I were to buy an alternative Pip-Boy instead of Bethesda's, I'd be paying at least $80 for that and another $60 for the game itself, putting me at $140. So, I've spent an extra $220 (don't get me wrong, I'm still incredibly embarrassed about that, and as someone mentioned earlier, I am most certainly feeling buyer's remorse, but I feel that no matter what I'm purchasing), but having the original version instead of something made by someone else that may or may not be a good replica is worth at least $40, the case I'd be willing to spend $30 on if I were to buy it separately in the future, and the other things (which I'm not nearly as attached) should be worth at least $10. Now I'm up to $220, and only spent $140 extra for the entire bundle. Still a TON for the bundle and admittedly more than I should have paid, but at least it's a legitimate bundle that I'll cherish for all of eternity (it'll be buried with my mummified body to take with me to the afterlife, of course).

All this being said, I agree with you guys: it is an obscene purchase and a ridiculous thing for me to ask of Bethesda or wish upon others who share the same misfortunate circumstances I was so recently a part of. I should also mention that this is something I did as a last resort to guarantee myself a copy; I still have another plan that I put a lot of my hope. Can't tell you all 'cause then you'd be my competition, but it probably won't work anyways. If I am successful and am able to get one at the original $120, I'd sell the one I bought for the $360 on ebay and split the loss with whomever I were selling it to. I'm not looking to ever sell this thing for a profit; even if I were to hypothetically sell in the future, I do not agree with people making money off of stuff like this, and would much rather support a fellow gamer with an awesome deal.

You're all most certainly correct, and I can't deny that a large part of my motivation behind this post was to make Bethesda second guess their "no more" policy. I mean, if I worked for Bethesda and this decision was in my control, I would try everything in my power to make the jerk who wrote this post suffer by making more by any means possible. Can't help it; I like to support the underdog. Just so happens my opinion as stated in this post was supporting the underdog (in that this perspective has not been offered anywhere, at least not that I've seen), and you should know that I only support and voice my real beliefs on subjects after the matter has been debated thoroughly. A few people have offered decent arguments and insight, and I appreciate those posts (yours is one).

One last note: I redact any and all of my comments or statements regarding Bethesda "promising" or needing to "stand by their word"... Bethesda owes me nothing as an individual, nor do they owe the rest of their fans whom were unable to secure themselves a copy. While I do believe a "Limited Edition" should remain so, was this even given that designation (Some articles seem to cite them as saying this, while others seem to make what they said out to be a "well, it's vague, and that might be a hint that more than we think will be hitting shelves after the release date)? I kind of had a feeling that they're going to go this way come release, so possibly the biggest reason I wrote this thread was in hopes that Bethesda would come out with a definitive, once-and-for-all statement that they will definitely not be making or selling any more than what has been already.

Sorry if I ticked anyone off, it was not my intention. I just LOOOOOOOOVE debating!!!

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:17 am

This was one of the best replies I've seen, and thank you! I agree with everything you've said, though I think the prices should stay high on this one due to, as you said, limited quantities. Beyond that (and I have done ZERO research on this subject), I'm assuming no preorder has ever sold out in such a short time period, neither have I seen so many articles related to preorders. These factors make me think that the price will only go up as we near the release date, particularly as people start to wonder, as I did, whether they might want to take this opportunity at the current price rather than risk the future rise. Then, when the game comes out, I can only imagine that people would want DESPERATELY to get a Pip-Boy and will spend even more obscene amounts of money to get them. They'll probably go down in price after a few weeks/month, but I'm not sure if that will be the case as those people that are looking to keep it forever buy them up and once again limit the supply available for sale on eBay and whatnot.

Like I said, I definitely have a case of buyer's remorse, and I 100% acknowledge that it could all come burning down. If it does though, I will be going with the voiding option you mentioned. I'd actually thought about that before I even bought it so that I'd be safe no matter what; I'm not dumb enough to make such a giant purchase without leaving myself at least a few options/benefits to the decision.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:08 am

Matrix had it right; we are a virus as a race. However, it seems a little narrow-minded (please don't think I mean that offensively; I am way too narrow-minded in far too many things, and refuse to hold that against anyone else) to refuse the possibility of ever paying more than retail for something. What if Bethesda's retail WAS the $360? Would that be an acceptable price to pay from your perspective? I'm assuming not, but who knows, so I had to ask.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:06 am

Bethesda deserves the profits of their products.


They should sell more pipboys and they should stop others from profits.


I say this because i want fallout 5 to have the biggest budget ever
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:56 am

After reading this post I really really hope they make more of them. What a d**k. But thanks for the laugh, $360 for a piece of useless plastic, lol.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:35 am

I really had no interest in whether or not they made more of these things, but seeing you plea that they don't so that the 240 dollars you wasted (and let's be clear here, you did waste it) doesn't go to waste makes me hope they do make a lot more.

You never should have bought one on ebay. Not only did you feed into the parasitic practice of scalping, the practice that makes getting collector's/limited edition items so hard for fans in the first place, but you "bought" something with no actual guarantee of it coming to you. Depending on how many the person you ordered from is selling, it's possible their pre-orders will be cancelled by various retailers, especially if they ordered a bunch from the same store.

And at the end of the day, you paid three times the asking price for the Pip-Boy edition, and you want to validate that decision by ensuring the scarcity of the item in question. I can't really be sympathetic. Especially since this request seems to be summarized as "I made a stupid decision and outrageously overpaid for this item so I want to make sure that nobody else can get it at the actual MSRP because that will make my stupid decision seem less stupid!"

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:47 am

I would have gotten one when they were announced (the official site had them in stock a few times) but they don't ship to Alaska so...svcks to be me. I definitely wouldn't pay $360 for one though, that's insane. The official release was only a $60 upgrade on the price of the base game. I do plan to get a 3d printed one from Etsy for $80-$100 though. :banana:

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:23 pm

My point was that I don't support scalpers.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:10 am

If you paid +$300 it is not from an official source and the irony of this post would be if you didn't get it shipped to you...good luck with that.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:53 am

I haven't seen anyone else point this out, but @OP, I have some potentially bad news:

Pete Hines has specifically said that no more Pip Boy editions will be produced. However, he also pointed out that it's up to the retailers on which that allocation becomes available. In other words, as we get closer to the launch, retailers may release more Pip Boy Editions for pre-order - or they may even just stock them for purchase on launch day.

Granted, it's a gamble either way - all of the retailers may have already made all of their allocation available for pre-order. However, I'd rather take the gamble that someone will have more available at $120 than to buy from a random person on eBay for $360 this far out from launch.

Eh, it's eBay. Fairly easy to get your money back from those who scam you.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:53 am

Justed wanted to say that my order took nearly 3 hours of battling on the UK website before it went through. These things are like gold dust, so it's no wonder people are charging over the odds for them on eBay.

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