Similar to hot coffee.You could go into the game files and remove a womans bra. That wouldn't have been a problem if there wasn't something underneath, buuuut...

I think that was the reason Oblivion was turned from a T rated game to an M rated one.

Since none of you seem to understand why I don't want it, how about you tell me why you do want it? Personally, I feel like the kind of people who want sixual content in games are rather immature and unintelligent. (Just my opinion)

Cheers for the info.

i play xbox, so ive never even seen a video games inner files.


how is six for immature or unintelligent people? the M stands for mature....

six is just natural. People should stop shying away from it and just accept it in every day life.
This might just be a massive stereotype, but in my experience, the majority of unintelligent people do not play RPG's.

Anyone who wants a game to be more realistic needs to accept that realism often means things that they are not comfortable.

and besides, i dont just want six to be in New Vegas, i want kids to be there as well, and how do you think the kids got there in the first place?

i dont sit infront of my tv, looking at a video game character and observing the nipbles,.... im not five.

six is a part of life. It wouldn't be right if they just removed everything six related from New Vegas. It would be odd for there to be a complete lack of it in the game, but it wouldn't tear me up for it to not be in.

Mature people love six. How do you think you were born. :wink_smile:

For me the addition of all the sixual stuff is annoying because it would take alot of devel cycles away from other things like Quests, Storyline and Effects - things that the vast bulk of the players really want NV to exceed at. I see no point in adding six into the NV game as the modders are going to do so anyway - and in FAR more explicit detail than you will ever get from Obsidian or Bethesda.

I say lets leave the six to the mods, where those that want it can add it in Vast quantities and at any level they want, while everyone else that doesn't care for it wont have to be bothered by it. I would much prefer they spend those cycles on the Game, and leave the six stuff out of the main release.

The big caveat is if the explicit content is wired into a quest that the game depends on - which would annoy alot of people, but at least it would have a purpose in the game other than to tweak the player's hormones.

Miax

it's interesting you wish this game not to have any sixual degrading material, yet you say nothing about the fact that the player character could at any time kill anything and anyone. not just kill, but to full on blow someone's head off... and that's right before they could rob & club their dead corpse with an array of weaponry. yet... your problem is just "strip bars"?

you obviously seem to have some decent morals and i don't fault you or anyone on that. that's a good thing to have. at the same time, however, you seem also seem to have a warped perception on things. how can one be not okay with sixual material but at the same time be fine with murder, killing, looting, mutilating, lying, cheating.... and the list goes on with what the fallout franchise has to offer that you don't seem to have a moral objection to. why is that?

Eh, If someone decides to purchase an M game and they are responsible enough to read the warnings on the back if that bothers them, then the devs should be able to put whatever they want into the game to achieve that M rating. It will not remove any enjoyment, if any it will add some reality to the vegas setting. And hey, there are always mods.

Watch how you phrase things please.

Those who want it included do so because it fits in with their idea of the Fallout world, it is not just about killing Deathclaws and wandering around looking for the next quest to go there, find someone/something, then return. They want to feel more in the game, and "interacting" with other NPCs is part of that. The same applies whether it is having a house to own, or a motorcycle to ride, it gives the game a more complete feeling, a bit more "excitement".

(Like the careful use of "interacting"/"excitement" . )

The first statement fails on the pretext that you believe bare skin to be something bad. Not everyone is sitting around drooling over people not wearing clothing. I myself find a good personality to be far more enriching in those more sinful thoughts. Regardless, I believe in the utilization of content for producing proper atmosphere. If you have a naked girl just walking around town for no reason, it just a well should not be there. If you have a sleazy, womanizing club owner I believe having his club with tasteless naked women walking around to be right at home. This is not likely to be done do to content restrictions and the like, and because i don't believe the designers at Obsidian are looking for a game filled with topless people on every corner.

I don't believe it takes anything away, nor do I believe in your statement that we shouldn't see it.

Beyond that, I do partially agree with your base argument that it isn't all that needed. Fallout is a great concept on its own without having to pull from any elements like this. However, in the aim of creating a post apocalyptic future where most people are now undereducated, the worlds oldest profession provides people with a source of income in a career with few academic requirements for the position. In other words, there will be people who can't make money any other way. We see it today, we have seen in the past, and it will become more prevalent in a future without education. That is the only reason I do believe such elements should be present. This is in reference to sixual content of the implied variant. Showing nudity, six, or other such acts are unnecessary and I'm not condoning that. Only cause it serves no real purpose.

LOL! Whit no sixual Content WTH should you do when you are bored? i whould ofc go down to the local bar and check the girls^^

If I play a female character (and I will) I think we should be allowed to engage in prostitution for money at the cost of reputation among respectable society.

Isn't that one of the statements that usually these threads locked? :unsure:

Isn't that one of the statements that usually gets these threads locked?

Just to "please everybody," sixual content would be better off out of the way. That way people who do want it can easily access it, and people who don't can just simply ignore it.

I'm willing to take that risk, but no, I think it's exactly what the Bear said.

I'm glad you asked this, but to tell you the truth I unfortunately don't have a great answer. I definitely do not want any over-the-top violence, but a realistic amount doesn't exactly bother me. To me, the rest is just a part of the game, it's not like because you steal something in the game it's going to affect you in real life. On the other hand, if you see something inappropriate then you can't get it out of your head. It's trapped in there forever.

Don't get me wrong, six is great. But I do not think we should be seeing someone else doing it. It's meant to be between two married people. It's not for other people to watch.

I hope this helps you understand where I'm coming from better.

Thank you for your comments,
Darth Eclipse

Why would you assume I would reply with hate? Nor do I think my statement is "idiotic".



The US Government cannot, except in cases where the material infringes upon the rights of others, tell me what I can or cannot view in the privacy of my own home.

Alright, sorry about that.

This is pretty warm in terms of flame, I would be careful as the moderators have said - no reason to throw stones!

To your argument I would say that six is Very different from murder, killing and other crime - I don't see how sixual content (tastefully done) compares to the real world activities of killing or hurting others - the two acts are not compatible in this anology.

As for those of us that love the Fallout world, six, murder, stealing, even slavery are things that would be very common after the fall of society - and ALOT of people like the vision of the "Road Warrior / Mad Max" theme. As a parent of two young children, the difference between "six content" and "killing, stealing, murdering, crime" is that the latter is already prolific in our society. We can turn on the TV at any time of day and find war movies, crime movies, murders and killing galore. Turn off the TV and turn on just about any video game, and violence is pervasive in nearly all of them in one way shape or form.

But six - that is different, it is reserved to late-nite or pay-only TV, unlike other crime and violence. To buy sixual content your supposed to be 18+ years old, where as anyone can buy violent content without much effort. Agree or disagree, but six is treated differently in our society and I don't see how it would be any different here. six is intentionally kept Out or at a Low Key to the actual act in almost all video games, where Violence is a staple - so this is not a New view.

:D

I think that it will be better if any sixual content is kept to a minimum, just hints and suggestions, that way it absolves the company from any problems but leaves those who make mods for the game plenty to work on. OK, it will not help those who play on consoles, but if they are that keen to have it the will have to pay for it - Hah, I mean buy a computer capable of handling the game and mods.

You haven't really explained why you don't want it in aside from a couple very loose and unfounded proclamations. I mean, what level would Fallout: NV sink to if it included it? Dragon Age? Mass Effect? Grand Theft Auto? The Witcher? All of these are multi-million copy sellers and very well respected titles within the industry, certainly not bad company to be placed with. You then say it's something we shouldn't be seeing. Why? Exactly how does implied or full nudity hurt me? I mean if we can handle seeing naked people in real life why wouldn't I be able to handle virtual nudity? Finally you say it takes away from the enjoyment. How? I mean how can a couple of instances of nudity and/or implied six deter your enjoyment of the game, what does a few seconds of a pixelated tit have to do with the overall satisfaction with a product that can last you hundreds of hours?

You haven't really explained your stance at all, you've given an opinion backed by a couple of flimsy statements backed with zero fact. You're entitled to your opinion and your entitled to share your opinion, but don't come trying to pass it as factual and the correct route to take.

Oh, Rohugh. Is there nothing that you cannot ruin for console players? :rolleyes:

its going to be hard to avoid sixual content to be honest, look around you, its everywhere!! think about how it would be once there has been a nuclear war and there are no laws and society has collapsed!

We shouldnt be seeing any of this? Were advlts not 10 year old spying on their neighbor in the shower, calm down, if it is in there we can handle it. And how does it take away from the enjoyment, if hate it so much just ignore it or avoid it. Any way I think no nudity, six, etc has been confirmed, but I imagine well see references in there.

When I say "we shouldn't be seeing" I mean that is your married life/girlfriend really that special to you if you are watching someone else wearing little or not clothing? I didn't say you "can't handle" seeing it.

Why shouldn't we be seeing this? If you don't want to see it, don't play the game. It's rated M. And how does having sixual content take away the enjoyment from the game? You've made your points, but lack the proof.