Please do not Include any sixual Content : Fallout: New Vegas

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:31 pm

We shouldnt be seeing any of this? Were advlts not 10 year old spying on their neighbor in the shower, slam down, if it is in there we can handle it. And how does it take away from the enjoyment, if hate it so much just ignore it or avoid it. Any way I think no nudity, six, etc has been confirmed, but I imagine well see references in there.

You are correct. No nudity, six, etc has been confirmed. But seeing as Fallout has had problems with putting such content in their games in the past I don't see it happening now. Probably no more than Fallout 3.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:48 pm

(Just my opinion) <--- these brackets can protect your post from flames! +75% fire resistance!

On topic - why six? Because six (and violence) is controversial. Controversial = interesting. A good character (in a film, a show or a book) is a flawed character, one that does questionable things, one that regrets stuff. A bad character is a pure angel with no genitalia.
The Fallout universe is filled with morally challenged people, to expect all those people just gracefully avoid talking about or engaging in sixually suggestive activities, is beyond narrow mindedness, it's blindness and denial.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:53 pm

Why shouldn't we be seeing this? If you don't want to see it, don't play the game. It's rated M. And how does having sixual content take away the enjoyment from the game? You've made your points, but lack the proof.

Please read my later posts for a better explanation.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:37 pm

(Just my opinion) <--- these brackets can protect your post from flames! +75% fire resistance!

On topic - why six? Because six (and violence) is controversial. Controversial = interesting. A good character (in a film, a show or a book) is a flawed character, one that does questionable things, one that regrets stuff. A bad character is a pure angel with no genitalia.
The Fallout universe is filled with morally challenged people, to expect all those people just gracefully avoid talking about or engaging in sixually suggestive activities, is beyond narrow mindedness, it's blindness and denial.

Please keep in mind that this is a video game and not real life.

And those brackets are AWESOME! They are extremely helpful in situations such as this.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:28 pm

:D

I think that it will be better if any sixual content is kept to a minimum, just hints and suggestions, that way it absolves the company from any problems but leaves those who make mods for the game plenty to work on. OK, it will not help those who play on consoles, but if they are that keen to have it the will have to pay for it - Hah, I mean buy a computer capable of handling the game and mods.

I'm not saying I want to see it; just handle it the way Nova did in Fallout 3. Fade to black, animate the character getting out of bed, and drop a few caps in my pocket. Hell you could even tie the "reward" to the Charisma, Endurance, and Agility stats.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:33 pm

I'm glad you asked this, but to tell you the truth I unfortunately don't have a great answer. I definitely do not want any over-the-top violence, but a realistic amount doesn't exactly bother me. To me, the rest is just a part of the game, it's not like because you steal something in the game it's going to affect you in real life. On the other hand, if you see something inappropriate then you can't get it out of your head. It's trapped in there forever.

Don't get me wrong, six is great. But I do not think we should be seeing someone else doing it. It's meant to be between two married people. It's not for other people to watch.

I hope this helps you understand where I'm coming from better.

Thank you for your comments,
Darth Eclipse

i'm sorry, but i don't think you should involve marriage or religion in this.

I add, you have never been to the Netherlands i take it? (known as Holland by most people)

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:23 pm

Please do incude sixual content.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:27 pm

When I say "we shouldn't be seeing" I mean that is your married life/girlfriend really that special to you if you are watching someone else wearing little or not clothing? I didn't say you "can't handle" seeing it.

Considering the fact that "seeing" is not the same nor as good as conversing, touching, holding, feeling, ect. yes that would still make your wife/girlfriend "that special." I've seen plenty of nudity within various games and it's never once made me treat or look at my girlfriends any differently over the years so not sure what type of argument your trying to make here.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:52 pm

Please keep in mind that this is a video game and not real life.

Well aware of that, thank you. And just like other forms of art, it takes elements from real life to arouse interest in the consumer. I don't need the game to be graphic in that area, even though I don't see why not - the notion of consensual six being a lot more immoral than gore and violence is silly, it is my belief it stems from nothing more than embarrassment.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:09 pm

I mean that is your married life/girlfriend really that special to you if you are watching someone else wearing little or not clothing?

Please keep in mind that this is a video game and not real life.

I believe you summed it up quite nicely yourself.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:05 am

the only reason i can see for him not wanting sixual content is 1 of 2 things not having to do with reverse psychology.

either 1: he truly hates sixual content and is most likely 10, as i at that stage also had some crusade against sixuality that lasted....a few months.

or 2: he is a child/teenager as I am and doesnt want to be banned from the game for sixual content.

either way, i think the solution would be to add a toggle to sixual stuff. might break/take away some quests, but thats the price.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:27 pm

This is pretty warm in terms of flame, I would be careful as the moderators have said - no reason to throw stones!

To your argument I would say that six is Very different from murder, killing and other crime - I don't see how sixual content (tastefully done) compares to the real world activities of killing or hurting others - the two acts are not compatible in this anology.

As for those of us that love the Fallout world, six, murder, stealing, even slavery are things that would be very common after the fall of society - and ALOT of people like the vision of the "Road Warrior / Mad Max" theme. As a parent of two young children, the difference between "six content" and "killing, stealing, murdering, crime" is that the latter is already prolific in our society. We can turn on the TV at any time of day and find war movies, crime movies, murders and killing galore. Turn off the TV and turn on just about any video game, and violence is pervasive in nearly all of them in one way shape or form.

But six - that is different, it is reserved to late-nite or pay-only TV, unlike other crime and violence. To buy sixual content your supposed to be 18+ years old, where as anyone can buy violent content without much effort. Agree or disagree, but six is treated differently in our society and I don't see how it would be any different here. six is intentionally kept Out or at a Low Key to the actual act in almost all video games, where Violence is a staple - so this is not a New view.

not sure how my comments to the original poster can be seen as "throwing stones" when i merely pointed out that he/she seems to have a moral objection to one element as opposed to the whole thing. i was simply asking the poster why that was.

second, i don't understand your logic. for one it seems you assume that because violence is more easily accessible than sixual material, then it must somehow be less of an issue or something.

"I don't see how sixual content (tastefully done) compares to the real world activities of killing or hurting others - the two acts are not compatible in this anology."

no one said anything about it being "tastefully done". i believe the poster said "strip bars" and "degrading" when referring to sixual content in the game. when you inserted "tastefully done" in your argument, i think your logic starting getting screwy.

"But six - that is different, it is reserved to late-nite or pay-only TV, unlike other crime and violence. To buy sixual content your supposed to be 18+ years old, where as anyone can buy violent content without much effort. "

i bet you without much effort that i could type a few choice words into google search and find stuff that you say is "reserved to late-nite or pay-only tv" in a matter of seconds.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:47 pm

the only reason i can see for him not wanting sixual content is 1 of 2 things not having to do with reverse psychology.

either 1: he truly hates sixual content and is most likely 10, as i at that stage also had some crusade against sixuality that lasted....a few months.

or 2: he is a child/teenager as I am and doesnt want to be banned from the game for sixual content.

either way, i think the solution would be to add a toggle to sixual stuff. might break/take away some quests, but thats the price.

Or 3: His morals, beliefs, and opinions have put him in such a position as to where he openly opposes the subject of six in games. This is more likely, and there's nothing wrong with it.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:53 pm

Please read my later posts for a better explanation.

I have, and your posts have few good reasons not to include sixual content. Trust me, there will not be any nudity (at least on the consoles because they don't sell games with nudity). And while I don't agree with you that it has to be between two married people, I guess that's your decision but you shouldn't be telling us to follow your values and beliefs, and when we see some sixual content in the game, it's not as if we are actually engaging in sixual activity with them. Most people generally disagree with you, so maybe you're wrong, because unfortunately for you, video games are based on what most people want, not what some people want but the majority will dislike. I wish a poll would have been in this topic to demonstrate my point.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:32 pm

I believe you summed it up quite nicely yourself.

Well said. Also, six is a natural part of life. Remove all human morals and society, and what do you get? Eating, sleeping, drinking, fighting, and six. And considering the nuclear collapse of society (even though it is getting rebuilt), the basic human needs are still in effect.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:15 pm

Has it not been confirmed by now that there will be no nudity? As long as it's just fade to black when it comes to six I will be happy.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:08 pm

But what is I want to RP as a sleezy club owner :sad:

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:24 pm

Please don't include any strip bars or anything like that because a Fallout game should not be degraded to that level. There is no reason to include any content like this and it will cause hundreds of people to not purchase it.

Thank you for your time,
Darth Eclipse

You actually play the first two games? They're all about six especially in Fallout 2 when you get to New Reno. Stick with the T rated games.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:27 am

But what is I want to RP as a sleezy club owner :sad:

I want to be a pr0n star.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:10 pm

"If six and vice are your thing be sure to check out Gommorah."

I don't think you should get NV in this case.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:00 pm

the only reason i can see for him not wanting sixual content is 1 of 2 things not having to do with reverse psychology.

either 1: he truly hates sixual content and is most likely 10, as i at that stage also had some crusade against sixuality that lasted....a few months.

or 2: he is a child/teenager as I am and doesnt want to be banned from the game for sixual content.

either way, i think the solution would be to add a toggle to sixual stuff. might break/take away some quests, but thats the price.

Or 3: His morals, beliefs, and opinions have put him in such a position as to where he openly opposes the subject of six in games. This is more likely, and there's nothing wrong with it.

No, The Spartan III, none of those are the reasons.Expresate nailed it, though.

But anyway, I know most of you have, but the people who have not really need to read all the pages of this thread to fully understand what we're talking about.

I think this is a good discussion and I thank those of you who posted mature, well thought out comments.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:04 pm

I just want it out because for one, none of us should be seeing anything like this. And two, because it would completely take away any enjoyment from this game that seems to have great potential. I hope that there is at least no more than how it was in Fallout 3.

None of us should see anything like this? Well, unlike some folks on here, I'm 32. If I want to see a semi-nvde woman, then damnit I will see a semi-nvde woman! To be honest, I think you are an underage kid who's afraid that your folks will not buy New Vegas for you if it has boobies. Because you know, boobies are WAY worse than smashing someone's skull with a sledgehammer.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:33 pm

I agree, sixual content, for me, would ruin the franchise, yes there may have been some included in the original fallout games, but times have changed.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:54 pm

It is sin city, btw. A place full of six, drugs, and violence. If you have no problem blowing hundreds of people away by the end of the game then why would you have a problem seeing some 3-d boobs... they never killed anyone.

Besides six will be playing a role in this one, to what extent i have no idea. But if my sources are correct (which they are) you will be seeing scantily dressed women.

» Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:18 am

Wow

oo: this is the first thread that I heard that DOESN'T want to add nudity in a video game!

I agree, sixual content, for me, would ruin the franchise, yes there may have been some included in the original fallout games, but times have changed.

oo: That's the first time I heard someone say that they DON'T want nudity in a video game!