Please no permafrost ... : V - Skyrim

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:25 pm

Didn't they already say that there would always be snow in Skyrim?

No?
Lore-wise, it has snow. It's north. But it's not all snow. And there could never be "perma-snow" in a place like that. In Atmora though, there's perma snow. But no, definitely not in Skyrim I'd say. At least not far from everywhere.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:25 am

Maybe have a small transition to represent Spring and Autumn.

The first stage of the winter transition can include change in leaf color.
The second stage can include falling leaves and a slight decrease in outside activity (or at least a change, so some animals can only be seen in winter and some only in summer).
The third stage can have small amounts of snow and a more significant change in activity (maybe have stall venders start moving indoors or closing up, and indoor shopkeepers getting less frequent shipments of items).
The last stage can be full on winter, where things stop changing untill the summer transition.

I didn't put a lot of thought into this, so I have no idea if any of that stuff would be noticable or if it would be worth putting in.

If the devs do not do this, some one has to create a mod for this. :happy:

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:39 am

The only place with heavy snow in Skyrim is the mountainous regions in the south. The rest is like England and Scotland.

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:37 pm

Well, probably not Scotland and England, as thats more how I imagine the lowlands of Highrock looking like... Then again, they are right next to each other, so it would make geographical sense that western Skyrim would take on similar features.

I also see the nonsnowy parts of skyrim looking like http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/609/elderscrollsvshadowsofsfx1.jpg or http://www.nih.no/upload/BMS2010/bilder%20norge/Fjord.jpg. Hopefully with cool immersive northern forests, similar to http://www.traveladventures.org/continents/europe/images/mount-floyen-hiking14.jpg.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:08 am

Well, probably not Scotland and England, as thats more how I imagine the lowlands of Highrock looking like... Then again, they are right next to each other, so it would make geographical sense that western Skyrim would take on similar features.

I also see the nonsnowy parts of skyrim looking like http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/609/elderscrollsvshadowsofsfx1.jpg or http://www.nih.no/upload/BMS2010/bilder%20norge/Fjord.jpg. Hopefully with cool immersive northern forests, similar to http://www.traveladventures.org/continents/europe/images/mount-floyen-hiking14.jpg.

Those first two images actually look like Scotland. What I meant though is Skyrim isn't gong to be just snow. We are not going to have a map bigger than Oblivion's, with nothing but snow. Some one posted an awesome map of Skyrim, which I cant seem to find, that laid out the topography and geography. It showed that only the mountain areas were cover in snow.

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Those first two images actually look like Scotland. What I meant though is Skyrim isn't gong to be just snow. We are not going to have a map bigger than Oblivion's, with nothing but snow. Some one posted an awesome map of Skyrim, which I cant seem to find, that laid out the topography and geography. It showed that only the mountain areas were cover in snow.

Oh really? :confused:

Now that you mention it, yeah, they do look like scottland.

But yeah, I know what your talking about, and I agree completely that probably only the mountains and some valleys will feature a good chunk of snow. This was how it was handled in Oblivion. Even if skyrim has way more mountains and is further north, I believe it will follow the same formula. If seasons are not implemented, then we will be seeing what skyrim looks like between spring and summer. And I expect that skyrim has its green valleys and pastures along with snowy peaks.

If you find this map, I would love to see it.

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:25 pm

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/joniscrazy/SkyrimMap.jpg
Notice the desert areas near Hammerfell. Most likely created by rain shadows from the Dragontail mountains. Also another reason why the northern part of Skyrim isn't covered in snow.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:08 am

As a Minnesotan, I support this.

I'm sick and tired of seeing snow everywhere.

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:59 pm

Hopefully not too much to ask, especially as, in theory, they'd need to actually implement only two of the four seasons (assuming a seasonal change was a specific, recurring time-based event and not a seamless/continual progression); Spring is similar enough to Summer, and Autumn similar enough to Winter, at least visually.

The fact that Skyrim's using a new game engine is promising as far as this kind of thing is concerned, so I hope we're not disappointed.

I dont think you live in a cold country lol. I live in Canada and all 4 seasons are realy different.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:08 am

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/joniscrazy/SkyrimMap.jpg
Notice the desert areas near Hammerfell. Most likely created by rain shadows from the Dragontail mountains. Also another reason why the northern part of Skyrim isn't covered in snow.

Interesting. So the snow mostly clings to the Jerall mountains of the south then. Actually, I saw this map somewhere before, but it was smaller and could not be enlarged.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:42 am

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/joniscrazy/SkyrimMap.jpg
Notice the desert areas near Hammerfell. Most likely created by rain shadows from the Dragontail mountains. Also another reason why the northern part of Skyrim isn't covered in snow.

yeah that explain the a'klir desert best idea I saw in the forums for a while want a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

» Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:28 pm

Interesting. So the snow mostly clings to the Jerall mountains of the south then. Actually, I saw this map somewhere before, but it was smaller and could not be enlarged.

Yep...and so much so in the east, that it made a desert. Also, its hard to say what latitude Skyrim falls in since the continent of Atmora lies to the north of Tamriel and has never been seen. Skyrim may be in a position like Iceland of England, or maybe even slightly south, like Normandy and/or Brittany.

yeah that explain the a'klir desert best idea I saw in the forums for a while want a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

No thanks, I hate fish, but keep it for another. I do agree with your sig though.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:39 am

Remember how there was always snow on the ground in Bruma? Is it too much to ask for seasons?

I don't mind the mountain region in the south, at higher altitudes at least, to have permanent snow. But the rest should have normal seasons.