PLEASE Remake Older TES Games

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:30 am

This is pretty simple, I would love to have those old games back with better graphics, new weapons, and a little new content that doesn't entirely change the experience. They were all amazing games (at least the ones I played were) and I would love to see them back with nice graphics and running really smoothly, and without the glitches.
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Tammie Flint
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:51 pm

Would be cool. Won't happen.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:35 pm

Remade Daggerfall would be staggering. And not that hard to make since all the creative work is already there. I'm very pessimistic about it happening, though, for some reason it's not an effective cash-grab.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:28 am

Please do not remake older TES games. They're great the way they are, and I'd much rather the time and effort and money be spent on new content. I don't want to live in the past.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:06 am

While i'd like to see Bethesda return more to the style of their older games, I wouldn't want direct remakes.

If they decide to revist High Rock/Hammerfell or Morrowind as settings at some point in the future, they should feel like new games.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:54 pm

Please do not remake older TES games. They're great the way they are, and I'd much rather the time and effort and money be spent on new content. I don't want to live in the past.

Daggerfall is in no way great the way it is. Or at least, it could be a whole lot greater with work.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:26 pm

Remade Daggerfall would be staggering. And not that hard to make since all the creative work is already there. I'm very pessimistic about it happening, though, for some reason it's not an effective cash-grab.

What do you mean by "all the creative work is already there"?

Much of Daggerfall's content was randomly generated by the game engine. The character skill set is enormously complex, and would probably be very hard to do with the present game engine. The game worked with 2D sprites, so there's no 3D stuff at all, so every object in the world would have to be redone from scratch.

And, if that weren't enough, it's my understanding that the original source code to the game has been lost.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:05 pm

I have a feeling that remakes of TES games would be bad. Very bad indeed.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:10 pm

What do you mean by "all the creative work is already there"?

Much of Daggerfall's content was randomly generated by the game engine. The character skill set is enormously complex, and would probably be very hard to do with the present game engine. The game worked with 2D sprites, so there's no 3D stuff at all, so every object in the world would have to be redone from scratch.

And, if that weren't enough, it's my understanding that the original source code to the game has been lost.

By that I mean: the scope of the game, the content of the story, the focus of the mechanics, the specifics of the requirements (like: what guilds, what do the guilds do, how do you advance, why should you advance).

Even if the source code had not been lost, every graphic would have to be redrawn, every object recoded, every mechanic re-implemented and rebalanced. You might think that's almost all the work. But as a developer myself, a large chunk of the work is just getting a clear picture of WHAT WE'RE DOING and WHERE WE'RE GOING and what the end result needs to look like. For Daggerfall, that's already generously done.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:33 pm

By that I mean: the scope of the game, the content of the story, the focus of the mechanics, the specifics of the requirements (like: what guilds, what do the guilds do, how do you advance, why should you advance).

Thanks. I see what you're saying.

I wonder if the same thing could be accomplished if Bethesda would simply release limited rights to the game, allowing it to be remade on a modern game engine for non-commercial distribution...?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:05 pm

I wouldn't mind remakes as long as they wait to do them until they've given us all of Tamriel, which probably won't happen until the 20's.

IMO, the only game I would actually like to see remade is Morrowind and I would like it to include a lot of new things including the entire mainland. That's also probably the only game worthy of a remake due to it's popularity, love, success, and longevity.

The first couple games and spinoffs they made don't deserve remakes, but the lands do deserve justice and because of the technology in the 90's, it wasn't possible. I would like to see all of High Rock and Hammerfell. They should make a couple new games (not remakes) dedicated to those provinces. They could add a Deagric realm to compensate for the small size of High Rock.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:52 pm

I wouldn't mind remakes as long as they wait to do them until they've given us all of Tamriel, which probably won't happen until the 20's.

IMO, the only game I would actually like to see remade is Morrowind and I would like it to include a lot of new things including the entire mainland. That's also probably the only game worthy of a remake due to it's popularity, love, success, and longevity.

The first couple games and spinoffs they made don't deserve remakes, but the lands do deserve justice and because of the technology in the 90's, it wasn't possible. I would like to see all of High Rock and Hammerfell. They should make a couple new games (not remakes) dedicated to those provinces. They could add a Deagric realm to compensate for the small size of High Rock.

Serious question, do you really believe today's Bethesda could make another Morrowind?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 pm

This is pretty simple, I would love to have those old games back with better graphics, new weapons, and a little new content that doesn't entirely change the experience. They were all amazing games (at least the ones I played were) and I would love to see them back with nice graphics and running really smoothly, and without the glitches.

This is pretty simple, too. I would love to have these new games back with better interactivity and depth, the old weapons back, and the lost content which made the experience what it used ot be. They are all amazing games in their own way, and I would love to see them redone with more than just nice graphics and the animations running smoothly, glitches or not.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:59 am

Serious question, do you really believe today's Bethesda could make another Morrowind?

Not today's Bethesda. It's only been 10 years since Morrowind. I'd give it at least 20 before they do a remake. It wouldn't be that hard either. They'd just have to copy from what's already there and add a ton of new features, tweaks, quest and the Mainland into a new engine. That would make it feel like both a remake and a new game.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:41 pm

Please never do this.

Bethesda, you have an infinite spring of Tamrielic ideas that can be put to use in your continuing ES saga.
Blaze new trails; leave old ones behind...
but in this case Sail new seas on the wide rivers and shallow oceans of Black mash, since that will be the theme of TES VI; leave old ships behind.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:13 am

Please do not remake older TES games. They're great the way they are, and I'd much rather the time and effort and money be spent on new content. I don't want to live in the past.
And how!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:47 am

Serious question, do you really believe today's Bethesda could make another Morrowind?
Yes. But not in today's game market with today's gaming demographic.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:49 pm

Yes. But not in today's game market with today's gaming demographic.


Sure they could, they could make another full on Arena, but they lack the ball's and backing.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:07 am


Yes. But not in today's game market with today's gaming demographic.

The gaming demographic is getting older and more sophisticated.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:55 am

The gaming demographic is getting older and more sophisticated.
It might be hard to conclude that, if one spent much time in the Skyrim forums lately... :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:55 am

The gaming demographic is getting older and more sophisticated.
And they're also more casual. The shift toward simplification is not driven primarily by the younger players. It is driven by an older generation of gamers who are burdened with jobs, kids, responsibilities, but who still want to play video games. Many of these older players don't have the time or the patience to master intricate rule sets and to plan out character builds in advance that they used to have in their college days. They may have one free hour a day - two or three hours a day on weekends, perhaps - in which to play and they want to have some fun during those few hours. And they wield the power of the pocketbook. And Bethesda listens.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:39 pm


It might be hard to conclude that, if one spent much time in the Skyrim forums lately... :P

Lol can't argue with that.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:45 am


And they're also more casual. The shift toward simplification is not driven primarily by the younger players. It is driven by an older generation of gamers who are burdened with jobs, kids, responsibilities, but who still want to play video games. Many of these older players don't have the time or the patience to master intricate rule sets and to plan out character builds in advance that they used to have in their college days. They may have one free hour a day - two or three hours a day on weekends, perhaps - in which to play and they want to have some fun during those few hours. And they wield the power of the pocketbook. And Bethesda listens.

Then where the hell did I go wrong? I'm in the group of kid gamers who've grown up, gotten full time jobs and families. Yet I want more then ever a game that's intellectualy stimulating.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:51 pm

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How about a source release? There's enough people wanting a Morrowind V2 to make it happen.
Just look at what dedicated fans did with Freespace 2.

Even without the source:
How about a Skyrowind project?
Isn't there already a Morroblivion project?
Isn't there already Tamriel Rebuilt?

Doesn't Skyrim have the most powerful scripting with the creation kit to date?
Wasn't there a total conversion mod for Oblivion that was an indepedant game on the engine?

Has anyone proven it impossible to start scripting mechanics back into Skyrim?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:30 am

It would be a great idea,but it wont happen.Remakes usually sell poorly
but in this case Sail new seas on the wide rivers and shallow oceans of Black mash, since that will be the theme of TES VI
And how do you know this?
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