Plugging the holes in shacks?

Post » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:36 pm

Oi all,

So, shack walls are one-side. Standing in the middle of a shack exterior, you can see through the walls as if they were windows. This also happens if you stand outside and look through a hole. The 'easy' fix is to use an object to block the view, but I was wondering if there was another way to do it, in one shot?
I've tried searching the forums but didn't find anything. I'm fairly new to the GECK, so I don't know all the possibilities yet. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
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Post » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:23 pm

Oi all,

So, shack walls are one-side. Standing in the middle of a shack exterior, you can see through the walls as if they were windows. This also happens if you stand outside and look through a hole. The 'easy' fix is to use an object to block the view, but I was wondering if there was another way to do it, in one shot?
I've tried searching the forums but didn't find anything. I'm fairly new to the GECK, so I don't know all the possibilities yet. Any suggestion would be appreciated.


Right.

The thing you are standing in is only meant as an object to sit in the world (such as outside, the "wasteland" world), be looked at from the perspective of being outside, and look pretty (or, look nasty, depending on what we're talking about here).

The way that's used in the game is, if there is a spot for a door, you put your door in the doorframe, and you will be able to create a link between that door and a totally different area. That different area is a new "cell" in the game called an interior cell, which you create just for the purpose of being the inside of your shack. The GECK tutorial (on the geck.gamesas.com web site)has you creating a Vault 74 (if I recall) and for example, that thing is an interior cell too, with a similar door link to the Wasteland.

You would make your interior cell look like the interior of a shack. There are specific wall and floor pieces which are meant to be viewed from the inside, you would use those to construct the interior of the shack. You can't really get away with using those interior-only pieces in the Wasteland itself, they aren't designed to be used like that.

Then, you would link your new interior cell to the door of your exterior shack, and... it's a shack, and you can go into and out of your shack by activating that door.
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Post » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:24 pm

Just to elaborate a bit on one of the things Tarrant pointed out. The interior only pieces cannot be used outside, unless a very special worldspace is set up. You see, the sun cast lighting on the world, and that lighting goes through everything (due to the bad lighting in the gamebryo engine) so if you placed interior pieces to walk around inside in an outside worldspace, sunlight would shine on it, even though there is a roof 'blocking' the light. This is why there are never any inside places, outside. There is always a load screen in between because, again as Tarrant said, you must link it to an interior, which then can have its own lighting without sunlight to shine on everything and it actually is lit properly. There are ways to make an outside worldspace not cast sunlight, but thats more complicated and you shouldnt worry about it now. Plus all that allows you to do is have ground inside your 'building' or interior setting.

Do the Vault 74 tutorial Tarrant pointed out before you do anything else. It will help you so much and you will gain a basic grasp on the geck and all its craziness.
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Post » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:40 am

Oi, thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I did do the Vault74 Tutorial, and it gave me all I needed to get started and fly overboard lol. Right now I'm playing around with objects to see what I can create by assembling them ( a recycled soda bottle window glass with a scaled camp log frame, for ex.)

The floor under the shack is made of 4 tiles that are a SCOL of woodplanksgroup assembly (which of course has some holes because of the different spacings and angles between the planks of one group), so, standing under it and looking straight up, I can see the roof but also through the wall since there's no inside graphic for it. Same thing if I look down to the shack roof.

Now, I can live with that hehe, but I was thinking there might be a way to create a 'dark space' of some kind to put inside the shack exterior, so that looking through the hole, you'd only see darkness, and not that fridge on the outside of the wall.
Little details :P If I lived in that shack, I'd plug the damm holes...sitting on a wet couch and sleeping in a wet bed isn't pleasant.

Guess I'll either plug the holes with objects or I'll just piece a shack together from the wooden/metal planks/shelves/etc.
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