Pocket Guide to Sentinel

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:25 pm

Hello good ladies and gentlemen of the lore forum. As some of you may know, if you've peaked inside the Fan Fiction section that is, of the Siege of Sentinel Roleplay in which I've created a map and short description of the city and all that jazz for. Well, i've decided to revise it a bit, to include some more stuff, and was wondering if you good people could give me some feedback on how lore correct (from what info could be gathered) the guide and map would be. Thank you all very much, so here you go, enjoy :D

The Pocket Guide to Sentinel
By: Halmacar the Philosopher

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/Titus-lord/Sentinel-3.jpg

--The Orange lines are the main roads leading through the city, the dark blue lines are city aquaducts and the green patches are city gardens.

Introduction: The Great City of Sentinel, Jewel of the Iliac Bay and second capital of the Imperial Provence of Hammerfell stands as one of the principle cities of the Iliac Bay, dominating the badlands that surrounds it great wall's for miles on end. The city itself is massive and diverse, with people coming from all over to see the sights such as the Great Bazaar, the famous Sentinel Theater, the Great Temple devoted to the Yokudan Pantheon or the Sentinel Palace, home of the king of Sentinel. These sights are just a few that Sentinel has to offer, with its marvelous and complex infrastructure and its unique and beautiful architecture, making it one of Nirn's most precious assets next to the Imperial City.

A History, taken from Major realms of the Iliac Bay: Sentinel is the Capital of Hammerfell: Sentinel sits on the edge of the Iliac Bay. It is most definitely a merchant power, for it sits on a rocky run of hills, and the barren plains behind it offer no good soil before they run into the desert sands of the Alik'r. It borders Ayasofya in the east, Antiphyllos and Myrkwasa in the west. Its principal street is a vast marketplace stretching from the harbor all the way to the badlands gate. Sentinel Palace is the oldest and largest Redguard architectural monument, quickly built during the Ra Gada firestorm to ward against the Bretons and added to ever thereafter.

The major deity of this Kingdom is Arkay. The military force of Sentinel is the Order of the Candle. They replaced the defunct Knights of the Moon as the official protectors and warriors of the kingdom of Sentinel. The lords Vhosek of the Moon and K'avar are the commanders and the knights follow their order implicitly. In Sentinel, no order, guild, or organization is treated with more respect than the knights of the Order of the Candle.

Sentinel was ruled by King Camaron and Queen Akorithi. They have four children. Arthago was the firstborn. Unfortunately he has poor health, therefore the King decided to "remove" him. The official record says that the Underking took the boy. Princess Aubk-i is the second child of King Camaron and Queen Akorithi, Prince Greklith and Prince Lhotun follow.

The War of Betony: The War of Betony was a major conflict that still makes people cringe and swear to this day. It was a war so terrible it consumed thousands of lives and effected not only Sentinel and Daggerfell, the principle combatants, but the entirety of the Iliac Bay. Like many wars, this one was started over land; more specifically, the tiny Island of Betony, south of Daggerfell that held strategic importance for both kingdoms. Starting in 3E 402, the war consumed the Iliac Bay in a fiery wave of death and destruction that decimated the Kingdom of Reich Gradkeep, now Anticlare, and came to its bloody climix at the Battle Cryngaine Field, in which King Lysandus of Daggerfell was slain by an unmarked arrow (Later it was found out he way killed by a noble of Wayrest). This victory was short lived for Sentinel, who soon met complete and utter defeat at the hands of King Lysandus's son, Prince Gothryd, who forced Sentinel to sue for peace. Later, Gothryd married Aubk-i, the Princess of Sentinel, to marry him and seal the deal.

After the War: The Rule of Sentinel fell to Queen Akorithi, who ruled in the stead of Prince Greklith who was at the time too young to rule. Under her rule, Sentinel expanded its reach far from the badlands surrounding the city, across the entire southern Iliac Bay from Abibon-Gora, beyond the Dragontail Mountains, to the edge of Mournoth, Orsinium's territory. Her death, brought on by a devastating plague left the massive Kingdom in the hands her only surviving son of the plague, King Lhotun, making him one of the most powerful kings in all of Tamriel.

The City: The City is divided up into Eight Districts, each one, unique in its own way and very important to the social structure of the city, and especially its defense. The individual districts are as followed.

Poor District
Middle District
Rich District
Palace District (Which includes the Great Bazaar)
Temple District
Docks
Forbearer District
Crown District


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The Poor District


The Poor District is where societies unfortunate live out their days. This district is attached to the main Sentinel Gate, and while its not the most beautiful district of the city, it gives visitors the impression of how diverse the city truly is. The Poor District also serves as the cities Foreign Quarter, along with the Middle District for the more wealthier travelers, where people all over the world usually stay when visiting the city.

The Middle District

The Middle District is the first thing a traveler would come to if entering the city from the north, and better represents Sentinels interests abroad, as the merchant princes make their homes in this district. The district is large, and not as heavily populated as the Poor District, which in fact has the largest number of people living in it, compared to the other districts, but the Middle District has the second largest population, off setting the possible bad impression people get from entering the Poor District. The merchants and traders of the city make their home here, along with the middle class sect of society, giving the district its name. As one might guess, the district is a large improvement, visually, from the Poor District, and is perhaps the most active portion of the city, aside from the Great Bazaar in the Palace District, making it the friendliest and most 'cultured' section of the city.

The Rich District

The Rich District shows the lavish life the richest of the richest of Sentinel live. This district is the most visualy stunning, and not surprisingly, the least populated. Unlike the other districts, the Rich district is marked by large manors of the nobles, the streets are wider, cleaner, and not as active as the others. The rich tend to stick to their manors, throwing lavish parties for each other and living the way their money has bought them, as kings. The most notable structure in the Rich District is the Great Sentinel Theater, a lavish and extravagant building where the great performers of Sentinel put on the most famous morality plays, famed through out Nirn.

The Palace District

The Palace District is the most busy and famous of all the districts. This is the commercial center of the city, where the Great Bazaar surrounds the palace that looms overhead. Here is where anything and everything can be found, if you need it, look no further than the Sentinel Bazaar. This sect. of the city remains the most popular of all, where people mengel and meet, sell and barter, where everything short of a mans soul can be bought or sold.

The Temple District

The Temple district is the religious center of Sentinel and the least busy. Here the Great Pantheon looms over the lush and beautiful gardens that surround it. Perhapses the most well guarded sect. of the city, only Ansei, monks, religious orders of the city, and of course the privileged can enter its walls. Inside the District walls lies the cities food stores, a massive granary that can only be accessed by those charged by the king.

The Docks

The Docks of Sentinel remain a bustling place, day and night. Home of the Great Sentinel fleet, the cities warships can be seen floating out in the Harbor or in their berths while merchant ships sail in and out, loading and unloading. Here, the smell of fish is strong and the salty air of the sea hangs over everything. As of recent, the docks have become more and more active, as its the current base of operations for the war effort under the Kahn, Bomilkar Barca of the Aliki'r and his army of fifteen thousand men. None the less, food and supplies regularly run in and out of the docks and into the city, making it easy to get lost in the confusion.

The Forbearer District

The Forbearer district is, as the name implies, very faction specific. Here, the open loyalists of the Forbearer's live out their lives, separated from most of the others in the city so they can live their lives out with their fellows. This by no means means that they aren't allowed to venture out into the city, it simply implies that they have their own spot in the city in which they can be with those of their own kind. Notable building in this district are the mansions of the rich and the Forbearer Beuro, which also acts as a palace for the current leader of the Forbearer faction leader, located in the Western Corner of the District.

The Crown District

The Crown District, like the Forbearer District, is very faction specific. Notable buildings in the area are the rich manors and the Crown Beuro. Its noticeable that the Crowns district is much more lavish and well designed than the Forbearer District, mainly because of their allegiance and the fact that they are richer than the Forbearer's, having more nobles then anything in the city, or richer merchants.

City Loyalists: Traditionally, Sentinel is a Forbear city, and was one of the Principal reasons the Crowns threw such a fit when Thassad II moved the capital from Hegathe, a Crown city, to Sentinel in the years before Hammerfell's assimilation into the Empire. Like most of the other cities in Hammerfell, the people of Sentinel harbor a strong civic pride that transgress Forbear and Crown. This is one of the main reasons for the district system, separating those faction loyalties into their own quarters of the city to avoid any conflict that might erupt from a mixing of the ideas.

Aqueducts: (Dark Blue Lines on the map)

Sentinel has one of the largest and most sophisticated aqueduct systems on Nirn, which run through the entire city, delivering fresh drinking water to the citizens, filtering out the salt water from the sea and purifying it for drinking. These large structures dominate every district in the city, and are vital for the cities survival.


I'm hesitant to add anything in about the Sentinel Cannon's, mainly because there is so little info about them other than a reference in a joke book. This is what I got so far, I'll probably add more in once I know more, but if you would, give me some feedback please. Thanks you all very much.
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Prisca Lacour
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:36 pm

the crown/forbear "district" distinction is superfluous and makes little sense imho. the crowns and forbears are political factions and coexist in an uneasy peace -- neither would tolerate being shut in a district because each feel that they are superior to the other. crowns would probably bunch together in a natural 'hood system, but that is only due to the fact that they represent a small portion of the total population (which is not only forbear but also strongly influenced by foreign states). the forbears are the ones who dominate the city, and would have no reason to cluster up. the people living in the poor/middle/upper class districts are part of either the crown or forbear, which is probably the main reason i think the further division is unnecessary.

The Temple district being secluded contradicts the freeness of Redguard religion. The Redguards don't take their gods to seriously and don't hold ?ber elaborate ceremonies or seclude their priests. instead they rely on each person to pray to whomever they wish whenever they wish it -- or not to pray at all. The only things that seem to bother them as far as religion is concerned seems to be zealots (such as the Sataks) and soul-stealing, the former being all the more reason for them not to sequester the Temple from the common man.

perhaps change the names of the districts to Lower, Middle, and Upper instead of Poor, Middle, and Rich? it follows Oblivion's naming and, imho, sounds a whole lot better.

this, though based on facts, is simply my opinion. do with it as you wish.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:02 am

Sentinel is not the capital of Hammerfell.

Hegathe holds that title. :)

Other than that, I think its great, which I'm sure you know, Tidus! :) Great stuff.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:52 pm

Marn: Actually, Thassad II moved the Capital from Hegathe to Sentinel before his death, which caused a good bit of discontent among the Crowns. Hegathe is the original and first capital of Hammerfell, Sentinel is the second and current capital. Can't wait to see yours on Wayrest, by the way :D

Lady Nerevar: Thanks for the post, I appreciate it :) I know I can do whatever I want, but I really want others opinions too. As for the district systems, I was led to believe, though I've never played RedGuard (and can only go on what I can find on the Imperial Library and form friends who have played it), that most Ra'Gada seem to be further divided up than just simply Forbear and Crown. For instance, when the Camoran Usurper attacked Rihad and Taneth, they called for the aid of fellow Ra'Gada but it was a call that went unanswered. Why was that? Not because they were either Crown or Forbear, if it were that simple then why would no one come to their aid? Things seem to revolve more around City vs City, more so than Forbear vs. Crown.

The reason I envisioned a Forbear District and Crown District was more of a place where, if they wished, Forbears could live with just Forbears and Crowns could live with just Crown which could ease some of the tensions between between the two factions. Aside from that, Sentinel, I would think, would be rather diverse. It being a major port city, would have Breton's, possibly Nords and whoever else sailed the Iliac Bay living there under the King of Sentinel as well, not just Ra'Gada, so while the majority of the Ra'Gada population would be Forbear, there is also various people from the Iliac bay, like you said, foreign peoples and powers have some sort of influence.

As for the Temple district, that would be one of my weakness's their. Ra'Gada faith is something I'm more so fuzzy on. The Temple district is mainly just where the Parthenon is, while their would be shrines to the different dietyies spread throughout the city, the Parthenon would be where the Sentinel religious Hierarchy would be. I'll add all that in when I make a finished copy, thanks.

I like the sound of Middle, High and Low districts better too. Thanks again for the post, and hopefully more people will post too.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:53 pm

Well, I too are against crown/forbear districts, but if they're in, there should be a Lhotunic district too, just for fairness sake :foodndrink:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:52 am

Well, lets look at Vivec for example. The City has specific Cantons for Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran where people from the great houses can live and shop and all that good stuff, but then their are just regular residential cantons too, in which people from all over of all Great Houses can live, right? So, while Crowns and Forbears can live together, they can also chose to live with people of their own specific ideologies too.

A Lhotunic District? I'll have to look into that, thanks for the comment, its much appreciated.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:51 am

Ted Peterson described Sentinel a couple of times in Loranna's RP, mostly the Palace. I'll try to find a couple of cites. Here's a brief one: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=254808&view=findpost&p=4573533

He described the Palace as having fountains if I remember right.

Here's a description of the Temple of Arkay, by Loranna, that I thought was good:
http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=244075&view=findpost&p=4401151
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:27 am

Oh wow, thank you. Any information is much appreciated/
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:00 am

Well, lets look at Vivec for example. The City has specific Cantons for Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran where people from the great houses can live and shop and all that good stuff, but then their are just regular residential cantons too, in which people from all over of all Great Houses can live, right? So, while Crowns and Forbears can live together, they can also chose to live with people of their own specific ideologies too.

A Lhotunic District? I'll have to look into that, thanks for the comment, its much appreciated.

This might be entierly wrong, but I think that a the biggest reason to as why the cantons were named such is because that is where the great houses had their respective Vivec head quarter. As I said, I can't back it up, but I don't think the commoners in those cantons neccesarily belonged to the house implied in the names.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:17 am

For instance, when the Camoran Usurper attacked Rihad and Taneth, they called for the aid of fellow Ra'Gada but it was a call that went unanswered. Why was that?


both Taneth and Rihad are Forbear cities, which is why they were not helped. sure, there are inter city conflicts (everyone hates Clavilla of Taneth cause shes an anol imperial ass-kissing [censored] for example), but they dont matter nearly as much as the Crown/Forbear ones. The Crown doesn't from the nobility and royalty of Yokuda, the Forbears are just the common people that did the actual fighting to conquer Hammerfell (for the most part). The Forbears resent being oppressed by people that did little to actually claim the land, they reject the high culture of yokuda in favor of the more cosmopolitan, equal, culture of the Empire. the crown on the other hand are all about linage and true redguard culture -- "We are superior in every way to all the other races of this world and they know it. The Hoon Ding guides us; all others can Make Way."

i think Villdarelse has the right of the Vivec canton issue. i think that the cantons are more like the embassies of the houses in vivec. they are not necessarily occupied by the only the house people but are named such due to the fact that major house agencies/buildings are located therein.

Hm, the Lhotunics. they are the newest party -- if they can even be called such -- and therefore i dont think they would have an already established quarter. the Lhotunics did not come about till some time after the Dragon Break, and they hold very little power. in essence, the Lhotunic party is the facade of a middle ground invented by lhotunic to not piss people off too much. he is a forbear, but his kingdom (and province) consists of a wide variety of different political alignments. he has to seem impartial, as do his advisers, even though they are not. There are indisputably many real middle-grounders in hammerfell, but i doubt that many would really align themselves with this pseudo-party (the PGE does not even list it as a true party really).

thanks for hearing me out :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:09 am

Lady Nerevar - Hey, any bit of info helps, no matter what it is as long as it pretains to Hammerfell or Sentinel, glad you posted :) So, even though Taneth and Rihad are both Forbear states, why would any of the Forbears come to their aid? As it was just Taneth and Rihad that stood against the Camoran, though I could be wrong.

As for the Vivec Cantons, it occurred to me while searching the Imperial Library that thats why they were named such, because of their respected HQ's, but still, wouldn't you think people who were in House Redoran might prefer to live in or near the Redoran Compoud, rather than the Hlaalu Compound? or say the Telvanni Compound? I also noticed that there way a map of Sentinel already, from one of the game :/ But its rather ugly, unorganized with no structure at all to it....and I like mine better :P.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:01 pm

Taneth and Rihad stood against the Usurper separately, but he was later defeated by Sentinel (another forbear city). i think this plays out partly due to the cities being in competition (Hammerfell is a series of city states, not a cohesive province), however, the other cities probably didnt want to suffer any of the losses of the war. the usurper was not heading at them, so they felt that their own safety/prosperity was more important then that of their allies (plenty real world examples of this). The political situation at this time is not entierly known to us however, it may be that the other cities were aligned towards either crowns or neutrality and did not aid due to this.

yea, people from the factions would probably tend to cluster around their respective cantons. cheaper services, people they know, shared ideals, etc. all make for a nice living space.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 pm

You seem to have walls separating the sections of town, it shouldn't be that way. They would be divided by the inner curtain (what you have around the palace which shouldn't be near the bazar), an outer curtain (put the nobles and some artisans inside), and the regular city wall in which everyone else goes. The temple doesn't need a district and it certainly doesn't need the prime seaside real estate, move it to the other side of the city I would say. The theater would be in the outer curtain at least, the rich can afford boxes to stay away from the floor crowd. Political affiliations generally don't need to be in separate barrios within the city, and I'm not sure what would be done with them. They are people like everyone else, moreso since everyone has an opinion. Give everyone who needs it access to the port though, and extend the port as far around the shore as you can. It is hard to defend a port section well, I would expect the poor to be nearby to get incoming work on the docks when possible.

Don't forget either that this huge shipping operation you're suggesting would require huge amounts of warehousing. Government services don't have to be run out of the palace either, a courthouse and jail can be separate, as well as the legion post, docks reserved for the Imperial navy, a drydock and shipyard to keep ships afloat, overland distribution services, things like that.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:47 am

Marn: Actually, Thassad II moved the Capital from Hegathe to Sentinel before his death, which caused a good bit of discontent among the Crowns. Hegathe is the original and first capital of Hammerfell, Sentinel is the second and current capital. Can't wait to see yours on Wayrest, by the way :D

Wow, I had no idea! Can you show me your source?

And yes, mine's coming along a little bit, as to what I'm drawing together. I've got something of a map... :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:59 pm

Wow, I had no idea! Can you show me your source?

And yes, mine's coming along a little bit, as to what I'm drawing together. I've got something of a map... :)


The new "High King" was even so bold as to move his throne from Old Hegathe to the more prosperous Forebear city of Sentinel, which had, by this time, mastered a third of the trade of the Iliac Bay.
- Taken from the good o'l http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/hammerfell.shtml itself.

Shades: Thanks for the post and the suggestions. It would make more since to move the middle district up towards the docks, then poor and then the High. I wish my scanner worked, then I would just draw it since paint is such a tedious B word.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:01 pm

Wow, now that you point it out, I remember. Silly me... Lol, when it was so obvious...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:24 pm

Hm, the Lhotunics.

Man, [censored] the lhotunics!

Lets dress like Imperials and pray to Tall Papa as we sing ye songs of Yokuda in the chapel of the Divines. Nothing worse then halfway anything.

When it came to forebear and Crown districts, I was a bit at odds with it, but said [censored] it. You tried hard on the map tidus.

Our description of Sentinel Palace rocks da ballz though.

Multi colored water within jacuzzi fountains, streams traveling through marble and a golden door encrested with rubies. C'mon now.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:18 am

Aye, indeed I did work hard on the map. I was more so wanting to improve on the guide itself, rather than map, but the more correctness the better. Its a bit late to change things now since we've already gotten into the story, but I would like to have a more correct version to post up later.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:40 am

Hey one question I'll be posing is geared mostly for people who have played Redguard.

Now, Ra Gada means warrior wave, and the Forebears were the original warrior wave. While the crowns came after the Ra Gada. Yet we all call Redguards Ra Gada, while I can't see the same Forebears you guys speak of (the imperial idealized), calling themselves Ra Gada since that would be so traditional. So the warrior wave, would not refer to themselves as such but as Redguards.

I believe the Forebears and Crowns is more of a birthright thing then political. One was born from the bloodline of the old warrior folk, while the others were born from the line of administrators. And then they tend to have biased views.

This way you'd fine Forebears who love and embrace there heritages, and Eastern idolizing Crowns.

So either we're wrong on calling all Redguards Ra Gada, (since crowns weren't the warrior wave) or they have all adopted that name, or we're wrong on saying Forebears are all Imperial and western oriented to the point where they want nothing to do with the Old Way.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:33 am

Since my only experience with Sentinel is from Daggerfall:
The Great Bazaar is in the SW corner of the city. The palace is surrounded by a great deal of nothing, although there's nothing to stop you from saying merchants put up tents there. And the palace is http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Jormungandr83/Daggerfall/fall_106.png, with a tower on each of the 8 points.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:44 am

Thanks for the reply Jormungandr.

My main problem with the Daggerfell rendition is it doesn't seem to portray the city very well to other descriptions. I mean, it has no walls that I can see, from that and the map. The Major Realms of Iliac Bay says that "Its (Sentinels) principal street is a vast marketplace stretching from the harbor all the way to the badlands gate.", so thats what where I was assuming the bazaar was, along that principle street, and more specificity in the middle of the city where everything converges (on the Palace). The Palace I havn't added or taken away from anything, except I envisioned that there would be something around the palace other than a vast expanse of nothingness, it just doesn't make much since for there to be just a bunch of barren land.
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