Or better, that she was killed by Maxson and you get info to prove the fact, and can throw him under the bus and cause a skizim and fight for who takes over for him.

People fail to realize the Brotherhood has always been the way they are now. Elder Lyons tried to change the BoS but failed. The Brotherhood was almost destroyed in the battle against the Enclave because Elder Lyons was weak. Maxon returned the BoS to how they should have stayed. The BoS has always been "Pro Human" to the highest extent.

I understand and can agree with their motives but they don't go about it in the best way. It really hit me when doing one of the BOS quests earlier today. Their own people do not even come before their main goal and that's we're I have the biggest issue with them.
That being said I will agree with those who have said Beth did a great job with them this time around. I like that I'm given reason to believe in their cause but can still take pause and recognize their downfalls.

Maybe I should create another poll about what do you want BOS to been or should act

The best question to ask would be what chapter of the BoS we like the best.

Or the Man/Woman Out of Time. I like that one more. Makes the SS feel unique.

Synths are not some lifeform that are endangered and must be cherished, they're manufactured and built. They were designed and they are being mass produced like a car.

They're an abomination. A cheap replica of humanity.

Unnatural, which is how my current PC sees Synths, Mutants and Ghouls. He joined the BoS to help exterminate them. Oh, and something about finding his son... Anyway I played my PC as a vet and proud of it, so he fit right into the BoS way of doing things without question. It was actually a pretty nice Role-play.

My next character will be quite the opposite be a MM supporter.

*hugs Codsworth*

I paid settlers 1,000 caps for their crops.

Just because we have the ability to threaten citizens of the Commonwealth for supplies does not mean it is ideal.

Teagan gave me the job of securing crops however I see fit, and paying for them wins more hearts and minds than violence in this case.

Wonder what happen to the members of Pro-Lyon Faction, 3 dog, vault dweller in Capital Wasteland, and other characters in FO3 that deem abomination in the Capital Wasteland? Do current faction kill them or sent to prison camps? Or what?

I imagine the Good Karma Lone Wanderer was Elder after Sarah Lyons but was replaced after a few years by the Lost Hills and Maxson working together.

Maybe because they were friends with a Super Mutant.

Need a DLC for this

Just a couple of things. First from a science fiction standpoint, you're still a machine if you are biological. We humans are machines, we're just built differently. The B5 Vorlons and Shadows use biology to build their machines and ships as does Star Trek's Species 8472 (and also Tin Man). So there is nothing mystical about a human vs. a v3 Synth. They're BOTH machines. They are probably both similar in terms of their sentience and ability to choose to be good or bad. I personally would accord the same courtesy to Cogsworth, Curie and similar robotic intelligences, based on observation in the game.

Second, I know it's the trend today to consider "good guys" or "Heroes" as either a) nonexistant or naiive idiots -- but I don't believe it. The Capital Wasteland's BoS in Fallout 3 actually had a role in the local society that had a positive effect on the people of the Capital Wasteland. More than we can say for many factions. Maybe once Hollywood stops making Superman, Batman, Green Arrow, the crew of Battlestar Galactica, etc. evil then people might start believing in the idea that someone could actually wish to help others without being deluded.

To be fair, Fallout games have always given the player the option of being a hero (and being good at it). Too bad it's not possible to wake up the Institute and the BoS to what they have become without actually destroying them. But then War never changes right?

I feel like the same things are getting repeated over and over in the BoS related threads now... The Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4 does have a positive effect on the people of the Commonwealth. They systematically and efficiently eliminate the threats that slaughter the settlers. They are good guys. They're just not a charity, like the Lyons' Chapter, in which Lyons prioritized the well-being of wastelanders over the well-being of the very people he was in charge of. Maxson cares for his own men first, as he should.

Bethesda should made it that Vault Dwellwer of CommonWealth could influence the direction of the faction more. Option to Convice the faction not to kill synths or corridate a sit down with faction.

No. Why?

If I convinced the Brotherhood to spare all synths and save them, they'd be the Railroad in power armor.

Also, good luck convincing the Railroad to destroy synths.

Makes 0 sense.

Thank you

It kinda felt like they could not be dissuaded in any way. As the protagonist you had the option to just go along with it or walk away. Could have been a more interactive experience if you ask me. But the same thing could be said about the whole of Fallout 4 if you ask me.

Lol, double post, sorry.

Yeah, but if you could change everything with your Charisma then it wouldn't really be hard to fix the problems of the Wasteland.

Just stating that the exact opposite wouldn't be fun either isn't much of a statement is it? No it wouldn't be fun if you could charisma your way through everything but I never said I would prefer that now did I?

I'd just appreciate it if the story was more interactive. It just seems to me that the protagonist doesn't really affect the story much. he's (or she's) just kinda there.

The protagonist single-handedly decides who lords over the Commonwealth

Well it most certainly doesn't feel like it. Yeah of course the faction you side with wins, but that's just because you hung at out their place when the final battle erupts, not because of anything you did.

Nuking eveyrone involved is a new definition of hanging out.