Theremay not be an option on the main menu for it but you have to go to a menu on start oor somthing to switch over to mp with other people which equals separate things. Also going online would make it a totally new experience because your not playing bots what have set habbits you dont kow what someone will do so it is a different experience. Anyways i'm not going to continue bickering with you about petty things since you think your mr know it all and no one can have read everythign you have or had as much experience in gaming as you :rolleyes:

If i remember correctly it will give you an option to go online between each mission.

It is going to be interesting to see clans on Brink and how they customize themselves for example do they all where the same uniforms or just have certain colors they where what do you think will be more popular as far as how clans distinguish themselves?

I could see clans all having the same exact outfits, mainly for easier identification purposes, or to perhaps, "confuse" the other team.

Like shooting a guy and then seeing the same guy coming around the corner?

yeah. Even though the game has names above players heads, enemies wouldn't really be able to tell who is who unless they were aiming at them. So if a team has a really good player, he would be "hidden in plain sight," sorta speak.

I had that idea but only using two guys. A nice sideshow to confuse the heck out of the enemy team. The whole is a bit overkill but everyone would have to be the same body type.

It would aslo play in confussion over time as well. "Was that the really good op guy or the medic?" Since you can't trust the look of a character for their class it might work.

i dont think they would have leader boards. they seem to want brink to be more of a game rather than a competition. The devs already stated they wont have global leader boards to prevent team hopping, i think something similar will apply to clans.

Thoughts on clan support or ideas you would like to see?

Interesting reading. I just find funny that some people think you have to be competitive in order to be in a consider clan. This is not true at all. I run a clan and we are a very organized group that have a goals, structure, code of conduct, and leadership infrastructure in place, and the best part is we are not hardcoe when it comes to being the best..we play for fun! So, what I am saying is a clan can be anything you want it to be...for fun or not for fun, serious or not serious it all depends on your objectives and what you want out of the clan. There are many clans out there that play for fun and others that are hardcoe, but no matter that are they are stilll consider a clan. I just let everyone now that advertising wasn't my intent...I was trying to make a point that is all.

My other points is clan support would be great, but it would not stop my clan from play Brink becasue Brink fits our objectives nicely since we are not hardcoe clan as it were, but for the hardcoe clans I could see them asking for full clan support. I would just be happy for Clan Tags, Special Clan Clothes and section for your clan to advertise and promote.

Anyways. Cheers.

No one said being in a clan automatically made you a more competitive person simply stated people who join clans are typically more inclined to be more competitive and thats why they join clans looking for like minded people to play with who they know will support one another instead of simply going off on there own like a bunch of lone wolfs like what happens in pub matches.

i run a clan, and thats what we are, just a group of friends, we all svck and you know what, we are ok with that.

anyway, if theres not leaderboards for individuals why would there be for clans? id rather just have some sort of clan system and management, maybe chose clan colors as well

I hope class will get a great deal of support.

I hope to find a clan of friends that likes to be competitive, without being its main focus.
Clan colors/logos are a great idea btw.

Because the reasoning behind not having individual leaderboards was to keep people from worrying about there K/ D and stat padding and focus on helping the team. In clans thats not an issue as everyone in a clan is there to work together towards one thing trying to win the match working together. Typically in clan leaderboards there is no K/D or anything like that just shows win/loss record ect. it doesnt show personalized stats its for the team so it makes people work harder to try and get there clan to the top.

nah, we are all just scared of you.

I kid, i kid.

is there any place that i can join a non-serious clan who'll play brink on steam?

If you look at the stickied threads there is one for fansites and clans to post recruiting people you may be able to find one on there.

I want NO support for clans, the whole idea and competitiveness that comes with most clans is in direct opposition with Brinks goal, from his posts the leader of Unit 13 has realistic grasp on what Brink will do for clans, I dont see how anyone who would post on a games forums months before the release would want more for something that destroys Brinks main objective so throughly.
Clan tags are about all I think are nessecary.

How does clans destroy object based gameplay. Your arguement makes no sense.

Exactly... :goodjob:

Not objective based gameplay but the competitiveness, have you ever played a clan member by himself while practicing, they are some of the worst people I have ever played online with, they automatically appoint themselves grand magistrate of the coalition of complete strangers and issue orders and justify it because their in a clan. Brink is trying to avoid what mw2 has done so good create an online experience where pwning noobs is the ultimate goal, Clans and their leaderboards will draw the same players that only play 32 v 32 tdm games.
My argument is mostly based on what iv'e seen, I have not been apart of the clan scene because from what I've seen of them they are both too competitive and obsessive my arguement is a stereotype but not unfounded, if you have not run into these lone wolf clan players consider yourself lucky.

What kills me is the clan leader boards and the whole If you svck get out of the clan mentality that is exactly why people leave mp and Brink is trying to convince them its not so bad, so if clans bring those people to Brink arent we taking steps back.

Granted too much competativeness is a bad thing, but have an organized group of people to play with. Trying to form any kind of strategy with randoms is an usually an excercise in futility.

My veiws of clans are biased In was talking about the people who brought bouncers to LAN parties :nerd: , my personal definition of a clan is not an organized group of friends those people promote and help Brinks goal, I was talking about groups of people who a very hostile to outsiders and have tryouts and what not, playing with these people can be annoying because like H0RSE said many are having power trips.

It sounds like you've run into nothing but bad clans Pyrishima. They're not all like that. Of course, you wouldn't really be able to tell if someone was in a casual clan, since they'd just act like a regular player. And anyway it's not like giving them no support would stop the bossy try-hards from being bossy try-hards. :shrug: