I really care for the Earth. As it is the only planet that can support life. Its unfortunate of what happens in Fallout but that's what makes it a good game. Anyway do you believe that this will happen to Earth one day? I believe it will. Eventually we will run out of resources such as gas and that will lead to World war 3. :cryvaultboy: Its only a matter of time. What do you think? Support your thesis!

My other question is "will Earth become as it is now after the event of Fallout?" It may but there is much more of a chance that it won't. Most of the species on Earth were whipped out after the bombings. Then again 99% of all species that ever lived on Earth have gone extinct and then have made a recovery. Though Earth will never be the same again. As every specie will be aggressive due to the radiation and trees and other plant life won't grow as big and green as it is now.

I care much more about the people inhabiting this place than the thing it self. Sorry to bring in my judeo/christian beliefs but yeah i think this will be a lot like what the world will be like before...you know, armageddon.

Hey, it was the Earth that we should care about. It was us humans that nuked each other in the first place.

While it's not impossible to destroy the earth, a nuke war would have to drop a bomb on every square inch of soil to achieve that, and even then I doubt it would do the job.

Nature is very resilient. We like to think we are poisoning the earth now, but if man vanished overnight, in less than 30 years there'd be little evidence of our impact on the environment.

Plants will grow even after a nuke war. Many animals and insects would survive and adapt. It's the higher animals that might not make it, and even that can be remarkable at what happens.

We'll kill ourselves off but life will go on....and might be better for it.

Eh, while I'm certainly a strong supporter of conservation and efficiency the threat of "peak oil" and what not isn't nearly as dire as many people make it sound. At the moment technology is being developed that allows gas and oil (or alternatives) to be obtained from algae and similar life. While far less environmentally pleasant the technology also exists to extract oil from oil shale.

Why don't we do this now? Well the first case is still fairly experimental, some of the technology is proven but still several years away from being commercially viable. The second case is potentially viable but at its current state requires mining the rock and then processing it, which basically requires strip mining huge swaths of land. Even the developers of the technology don't like the idea of this so the technology is pretty much being kept on the back burner while they try to develop a way of cooking or processing the oil shale without mining it.

The point of this science lesson? Even if we had a sudden crisis of natural resources right now there exists technology to alleviate it - however without a critical situation its best not to use it. Given another decade or so and far cleaner and greener technologies will likely exist . . . it will probably take longer for them to become commercially viable but if there was a sudden crisis with conventional oil they would give us very solid options.

Being able to produce oil and fuel in this manner wouldn't be able to solve a critical situation by themselves but the energy sector has known for some time that the future would require diversification and this is being pursued. Of course the problem with diversification is it takes longer for any individual technology to prove itself and far more technologies are required to have much impact. But again while this will likely keep them in the background for some time a resource crisis would certainly expedite their arrival.



As such I don't see a Fallout-esq resource wars situation leading to another World War. This isn't to say there couldn't be some other spark for global war, but even in this case I don't see a Fallout-esq situation deriving from it. The possibility of nuclear armageddon should never be ignored but its wildly unlikely.

Earth is going to end up like Mars.

No No...

Will the world turn back into what it is today?
- Highly Unlikely, after what has happened, If it ever does it will take centuries. Civilization will have to rebuild itself completely.

Will the world ever turn into how it is in Fallout?
- Looking at the way things are going these days in world affairs, the idea isn't too far fetched. I'd give it another generation or two.

2 generations! Phew I won't be alive then. :touched:

Did you ever heard of the 2012 theory?

That's nonsense. Nothing is gonna happen in 2012. The Earth's been around for 4plus billion years. The worst that can happen is a few Earthquakes. Nothing that would scar Earth for too long.

You NEVER know. At any minute a asteroid (or something similar) can hit Earth and make it end up like MARS.

The 2012 theory is something that has sprung up because of a giant game of chineese whispers.

The Mayan Calendar does not predict the end of the world in 2012. It is merely the full revolution of one of their "long counts"- Just as the world doesnt end when an anaolgue clock completes its cycles, or a car doesnt fall to bits just because the oddometer has cycled around to 00000000.

In fact, if the ancient mayans were still around, they'd probably be preparing a "millennium" style party, not running for the hills. making it to the end of a cycle was a pretty important occasion, kinda like the millennium.

Of course, facts don't sell books as well as fictional hyperbole, even in the supposed "non fiction" market. its just Y2k Version 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar#Long_Count

In Earth's entire history there have been plenty of things worse than a few earthquakes - notably multiple well documented mass extinction events.

A natural disaster (say a large asteroid or some massive increase in volcanic activity) could wipe out mankind in totality, or possible leave us with a post-apocalyptic situation where some people survive. Certainly either situation is also possible with a man made disaster - although here I disagree with Holy Assassin as I feel it's quite unlikely.

Its human nature to destroy ourselves so eventually there will be a WW3. All it takes is some stupid idiot to push the button and all hell will break loose.

Unfortunately, its true.. War is a part of life and eventually there will be WW3.

Honestly....don't care about the earth....don't care about the human race.

Don't care about the earth because it's just a rock that happens to have an ecosystem...eventually it'll just be a rock and then at some point it'll be gone. Nothing can stop that.

Don't care about the human race because it'll be extinct soon enough. I do care about people especially the ones I love, while I still live....but the race in it's entirety...nope.

The human race is doomed because the only way to avoid species extinction is to have the ability to travel to other systems and migrate on the galactic level. We'll never be able to do that...hence extinction.

As far as WW3 and a big nuclear conflict....I doubt it will ever happen and even if it did it wouldn't wipe out the human race or make the planet uninhabitable. At worst it would waste and irradiate large areas(e.g. U.S. and China)...but that wouldn't kill off the rest of civilization and would probably just make the ecosystem much more hostile...but not uninhabitable. And it wouldn't knock us back into the stone age, even though it would set us back industrially.

Nope...I am 100% sure that our extinction will be the result of either of two specific events; A viral/bacteriological(whether produced or natural) event or a Solar event, like a particularly violent flare.


Our existence as a species is totally transient.

Look at our history. We are somewhat following the timeline of Fallout (minus the retro 50's look, and differences in inventions.) and could very well one day face mass scale nuclear war. It wont be nearly as bad as FO3 made it seem though. But I think its possible, however not until we run out of resources in like 20 years.

And as for the 2012 theory. If anything were to happen, we would already know about it. Technology would allow us to fortell such events. Its going to be just like Y2K. A few people (literally like 4) will lock themselves in their basemants, and wait it out. The rest of us will ignore it and go on with our lives. (for 20 years, till the nuclear war happens.) If we go extinct, it will be entirely our own fault.

Earth will be around for 4 more billion years. In about 500 million. The Sun will get brighter and that may kill of a few species but not the whole planet until; possibly a billion year more. We could be doomed in a few hundred years. How about we make the best of that 500 million, instead of a few hundred? Maybe by then we would have the technology to travel far distances much quicker. ^_^

l think if civilizations have completely crumbled in the past, something similar is bound to happen in the future only with nuclear bombs, worldwide, and we explode.

There is absolutely ZERO, NO chance we'll last as a race 500 thousand years much less 500 Million. We'll be extremely lucky if we last 5,000 years.

I honestly don't even think we'll make it another 1,000 years

Why would you think that? Of all life on this planet, we are the only species who has managed in most cases to tame our environment. Some scientists believe we have even stopped evolving. As science continues, we may find ways to cure or even get rid of our genetic disorders and external diseases. Just look how far we have come in the last 100 years. I do have some hope for humanity, not much, but some.

I have some "hope" for humanity....I just don't have "faith" in humanity. Looking at how far we've come in the past 100 years is exactly why I don't think we'll be around much longer. The more advanced our sciences get the higher the consequences are when we make mistakes.

I honestly think we're gonna make a genetic mistake somewhere....create an uber-virus and snuff the race. That's the most likely scenerio IMO.

But there's so many other things where we play with fire. Create a micro blackhole in a particle collider and whoops....it's getting bigger "turn off the machine jack" Jack: "I can't" :facepalm:

And again...the sun. If we manage to not make any big mistakes for a couple centuries there's the sun. One extra volatile burp and there goes the atmoshpere.

And even sans that occurence, what are we gonna do about population multiplication and finite resources....these things are real issues that will eventually reach critical states.

Like I said....since I don't think we will ever be able to migrate on the galactic level, it's simply a matter of time before we're gone....and not a long time.

It's not really pessimism...I think it's simply being objective.

Actually, I think you'll find that's mostly pessimism. I'll address your points one at a time.

1. No virus or disease has a 100% kill rate - if it did, it would be relatively easy to contain and prevent it from "snuffing the race". There will always be survivors of such an event.
2. I don't think you understand how a particle collider (or a black hole) function. Here's a link: http://www.livescience.com/environment/060919_black_holes.html
3. That is undeniably a constant possibility, but the chances are beyond minute.
4. Renewable energy sources exist, as do recyclable resources.
5. If the population becomes too high for the Earth to sustain, mass poverty will occur until there are a sustainable amount of people on the Earth once again.
6. If you have no proof as to why you think that, then that isn't objectivity, that is pessimism.