Possible being hybrid Werewolf-Vampire? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:31 am

Is it possible, lore-wise, to be both Werewolf and Vampire at the same time? It's not possible in Skyrim, but was in Morrowind iirc. If it is, what happens to the soul of the person when he/she dies? Does the soul go to Coldharbour of Molag Bal, or the Hunting Grounds of Hircine?

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:08 pm

Kynareth suffocates them for crimes against nature/good taste.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:07 am

Man, people are really getting into the 'where do conflicting oaths bring you?" question.

In Morrowind, those were crazy bloodmoon curse werewolves. I'm not sure if that should be taken as the norm, because it can infect you even with the corprus. I'm pretty sure you can't be both.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:42 pm

Man, people are really getting into the 'where do conflicting oaths bring you?" question.

In Morrowind, those were crazy bloodmoon curse werewolves. I'm not sure if that should be taken as the norm, because it can infect you even with the corprus. I'm pretty sure you can't be both.

Also, in Morrowind, it was probably a bug, considering you ended up with a weird werewolf-body vamp-head thing going on.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:14 pm

If it is, what happens to the soul of the person when he/she dies?

That's easy. The souls of Werewolves go to Hircine. Vampires don't have souls.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:36 pm

That's easy. The souls of Werewolves go to Hircine. Vampires don't have souls.

Vampires goto Molag Bal, remember Vampirism in TES is more of a disease

Also why? There wouldn't be a reason? Plus it sounds completely stupid.

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:07 am

I imagine wars are fought in Oblivion over single souls.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:57 pm

I imagine wars are fought in Oblivion over single souls.

There are daedra accountants and lawyers who are in charge of that.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:09 pm

We should have Daedra accountants in real life....I'd trust them more then human ones.

» Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am

they each give disease immunity, so not really. Also in morrowind it was a bug to have them both at once, anyone who has ever seen it knows you get a wierd vampire head on werewolf body thing.

I also agree that the bloodmoon must enhance hircine's curse's potency, as you can catch it along with corpus

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:07 pm

Is it possible, lore-wise, to be both Werewolf and Vampire at the same time? It's not possible in Skyrim, but was in Morrowind iirc. If it is, what happens to the soul of the person when he/she dies? Does the soul go to Coldharbour of Molag Bal, or the Hunting Grounds of Hircine?

It's not possible, at least I don't think it is. Morrowind was a glitch. There is a reason you can't contract both diseases in Skyrim.

Kynareth suffocates them for crimes against nature/good taste.

Pfft. Please, screw Kynareth. They are the top of the food chain, which is why everything else deserves to be drained to a bloodless husk or devoured as a juicy piece of tidbit or lamshank.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:57 pm

Honestly? Whichever Daedric lord has a greater claim is the one you would go to. However it is not supposed to be possible to be both. I would imagine if it were possible whichever one you spent the most time as would be the greater claim on your soul. Maybe your soul is ripped apart and cycled through the dream sleeve because the two Daedra Lords cancel each other out. There could simply be a case of you choose as well.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:41 pm

If the soul is powerful enough, all out war would erupt. The soul of the Dragonborn. fueled by 1,000 slain dragons with an oath or bargin with almost every Deadric Prince there is... I honestly don't think it would matter. I'm sure Akatosh already claims the soul of the Dragonborn and everyone else can ..well take it like an imp.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:07 am

Here's the thing. In Skyrim, you swear an oath to Hircine, which is why your soul goes to him.

No such thing happens to vampires.

And then there's Nocturnal's Nightingales, and as a Nightingale Werewolf, your soul would go whoever wins the scissors-paper-rock contest.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:59 am

And then there's Nocturnal's Nightingales, and as a Nightingale Werewolf, your soul would go whoever wins the scissors-paper-rock contest.

Or thousand year war across seventeen planes.

Depending on the mood.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:52 am

Or thousand year war across seventeen planes.

Depending on the mood.

Yeah, there is that.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:04 pm

There are daedra accountants and lawyers who are in charge of that.

http://i.imgur.com/TDQyp.jpg

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:08 pm

http://i.imgur.com/TDQyp.jpg

Reminds me of some co-workers.

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:59 am

Reminds me of some co-workers.

Must be hell at the water cooler.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:35 am

As it were.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:19 am

Pfft. Please, screw Kynareth.

Someone claims to have done. Where do you think the father of manbeasts comes from?

...seventeen times spread Eagled at the crest of her own Crag.

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:51 pm

Pfft. Please, screw Kynareth. They are the top of the food chain, which is why everything else deserves to be drained to a bloodless husk or devoured as a juicy piece of tidbit or lamshank.

They're obsolete, so, erm, inverse that request. They deserve diddly. Or rather, diddling, and Kyn's the master of ceremonies.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:17 pm

Obsolete? Just like a great many things in the Elder Scrolls universe. Including Kynareth's own creations.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:18 pm

Obsolete? Just like a great many things in the Elder Scrolls universe. Including Kynareth's own creations.

You won't be saying that when you're gasping for air.

Probably won't be saying much of anything I suppose.

» Fri May 04, 2012 9:24 am

You won't be saying that when you're gasping for air.

Probably won't be saying much of anything I suppose.

Creatures, I meant. Spriggans and etc.

Then again, in Daedric Realms, a place not of Kynareth's domain, nothing is "obsolete".