Edit: never mind

I just personally don't think Hard Core mode would work that well in TES. I mean Fallout, sure, but that's a game about survival in the harshest of conditions. In that case hard core mode is part of the theme, but Elder Scrolls is different, it's not so much about the struggle to survive. But that's just my opinion.

Also, I could be wrong, but I think what he meant by "I can't answer your second question" was just that they're totally unsure at this point.

But not going to only certain places. I'm going to use Oblivion for example in this post, so not to confuse everyone. (We don't know what the map of Skyrim and its cities look like..Well at least I don't.)

Morrowind's Travel Sytstem: Four options to travel from here, (City of Cyrodiil) Anvil, Bruma, Cheydenhal, or Leyawiin. 500 gold a piece.

New Travel System that i mentioned: Opens map, you click on a location you want to go, it calculates distance with cost, you get a total price asking if your sure you want to go, you go.

No limitations as that a horse can only travel on flat land and not a hill, because that makes a ton of sense. (Que the Sarcasm)
But yes, morrowind type as in you can't just click on the map and go, but you have to find a travel station. And NOT like morrowind as in that theres no limitations on to where you can go, besides if the location is discovered or not.

This.

Ships and guild guides made sense in the context of the game world. Zero-risk automatic travel did not.

That's poor quest design, the kind we saw in OB, which stems from the assumption that the player probably WILL use the fast travel system.

I think one thing that would (hopefully) be easy to implement and not require a complete redesign of the game is if the dynamically generated quests tracked whether you used fast travel often, and prioritized giving you quests that didn't take you far from your current location if you don't. Seems like it would be a fairly easy favor to extend to people who dislike using fast travel by making sure they always have some quest they don't have to travel across half the map for.

I don't see what your mad about, until you go to your map and pick a destination FT is off.

that easy you character walks there of screen ,oblivion calculated the character speed so the time wend up in the game as if you walked there normally.

But its true. You go somewhere hoping to find an epic quest, and they tell you to go to a cave 10,000 miles away to kill the sacred bear of worthlessness and skin it for a hide that will decorate her house. Your reward: 250 gold. Best quest ever, is it not?

If you like those kind of quests go for it. All im saying is add a travel system restriction, so people will stop complaining about traveling for free.

This...
Especially because the "Don't like it, don't use it" mentality is frowned upon. :cryvaultboy:
Oh the irony!

Hell yes to hardcoe mode! I also wouldn't mind fast travel if it worked so you could be stopped by enemies midway. In oblivion it's just a teleport.

I was thinking more of randomly generated events such as a band of thieves try to attack your caravan when traveling from one place to another. After you kill them, talk to the caravan-er to continue on to your destination, and depending on his views of you, will lower the price, and/or give a reward. Or he might just not.

I'm talking about randomly generated events that happen during travel.

Edit: looks like JGvardija beat me to my own idea.

i do think hardcoe mode would fit well in the rugged and dangerous Skyrim. I've never tried hardcoe mode in fallout (barely played it at all actually) so i wouldnt know if id like it or not.

I voted yes but I do hope it is optional. It would be great for replaying

Ach hardcoe in new vegas was just a poor excuse to carry more crap in your inventory. Yes I'll carry ten canteens of water at any time. Yes i'll pick up and carry food. I'll keep a couple doctor bags spare just in case.

Roughly, playing hardcoe is just removing 15 to 20 points of your carry limit and using said item when you need it. Its hardly realism, or even hardcoe.

You only had to stock up a tiny bit every so often, and if you managed to fast travel and sell as much loot as possible it wasnt costly either, so it was just extra chores.

hardcoe should be ridiculously tough. You need to plan ahead, use your skills right, learn how to play well or die. The game auto saves only at the start of the quest and each intervening loading screen, out of combat moment, or certain tested running distance for those fast travel haters. Your companion dies, the game takes them out altogether and they wont even be there at the last autosave. Just make the game merciless. Thats hardcoe.

Not buying extra items just to satisfy a stat meter.

I was quite disappointed with hardcoe New Vegas.

Agreed with Hek, hardcoe mode basically was a 'deduct 20 units from your inventory carry weight'. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't see what the fuss is about.

I do miss the silt striders. I don't like fast traveling all the time. It depends on what I'm doing really. If there was another transportation option like silt striders, I would definitely use them instead. But if they didn't add them, oh well. If it is like the fast travel from Oblivion, why would you want the option to "turn it off"? Just don't use it. It's not like there's anything that comes up on the screen yelling FAST TRAVEL, YOU (censored).
I do see why people want the compass turned off though. But if there isn't a HUD, then I guess we won't have to worry about that, will we?

Don't really care. Skyrim is already sounding fairly "hardcoe" in some respects with the dangerous encounters and more responsive combat system that they've described. Plus just think of how many melee NPCs will be taking a few slashes at you and then melting your face off with a spell from their free hand. At the very least, TES V sounds as if it's going to be considerably more tactical in some respects from previous installments in the series. At least, assuming the Radiant AI system isn't overexaggerated again.

Wouldn't you be just as tempted to turn it back on as not use it in the first place?

I guess it will be like Oblivion meaning that there will be an adjustable difficulty bar.

You must mean the tediousness slider. There was no such thing as a difficulty bar. :mellow:

I like his response "When hasn't fast travel been optional" and we all no that it really wasn't in Fallout 3 and Oblivion, unless you wanted to walk everywhere.

Yes, I still can't believe he actually said that. :swear:

I'm tempted to ask him about it.

Hopefully so. I don't get it that fast travel won't even be toggable. -_- That would have been the way to appease everybody, with no loss. I would have liked the possibility to remove it altogether during the creation of my character, with no turning back.

At least I hope that other, more restrictive forms of travel will be made more evident : mark/recall spells, official siltsriders-like mode of travel, directions even, with a more usable and customizable map, interesting stuff happening on the roads to motivate the use of real travel, etc. It is said that fast travel is a choice, just let it be a real one, is all.