You have heard of or read Earth Abides? Its arguably the best novel I mentioned. It also has a dog in it, probably the origin of post apocalyptic dog companions. The story spans the entire life of the protagonist "Ish", from his first encounter with the "New Plague" to his waning last moments seeing the new civilization he has created. By the end of the novel Humans have resorted back to tribal lifestyles, hunting with bow and arrows because "The cartridges of guns dont always fire". Using dogs who are decedents of Ish's first canine companion "Princess".

And all this from a 40s book, quite ahead of its time.

A Boy and His Dog is awesome. Terrible, but also awesome. It's fun to compare Don Johnson in that movie to Don Johnson in Machete.

Cheers for playing Wasteland. That's the game that got me into "Fallout" in the first place back in the '80s. In fact, Fallout 1's locations and plot are really similar to Wasteland's. I used to play it on my phone, but now I have an Android phone and I've not seen a DOS emulator that would run games on it.

By the way, if you're playing Wasteland you should be able to name my forum avatar...


I should have that from Netflix tomorrow. I've heard it was pretty bad, though. I guess I'll have to see for myself.

A Canticle for Leibowitz is a good read.

Talk about a tough read for people unfamiliar with Catholicism. Although it is agood look at how organized religion is a racket used to control and manipulate the masses. :wink_smile:

It's sort of a cult thing, like how some people liked dune

I'm unfamiliar with Catholicism, and I remember liking it. It was a bit heavy at times though.



I wouldn't say bad, but a bit rushed. If it had, say, 30 minutes more length to give more depth to the characters and the overall story, it would've been much better.

I guarantee that if you had a better understanding of Catholicism, the book would take on a whole other meaning. A lot of the Dogmatic themes only present them self after you compare them to their real life counterparts. Then again i would expect as much from a guy who idolizes Coffee...just kidding.

On the subject of the Book of Eli, the problem for me was the whole thing is just religious propaganda. Plus the ending is so ridiculous its funny.

An inquiry for you though; since coffee has different blends, is it a polytheism or monotheistic based religion?

Religion is a no no subject here remember.
Don't go too far with that discussion.

So, are you far enough into Wasteland to recognize my avatar?

Also, I liked Dune...but probably because I read the book first, which is great. The miniseries on the Sci Fi Channel was more accessible than the Lynch film, though.

I figured as much. Then again, I'm not as hot for learning about different religious themes as much as I am for a cup of coffee.

I think Eli had a swell base for a story, if only it had more depth. The ending wasn't the best possible, but I thought it was passable. So many movies today just annoy me, that Eli leaving about indifferent feelings is actually positive thing.

Coffee is coffee (unless it's decaffinated, in which case it's blasphemy and an abomination). So, mono we go.



I thought the miniseries was brilliant. Nevermind it looking ten years older than it was or the clunky acting, the drive of the story just grabs over and over again.

Duncan Idaho FTW
Have you read any of the other Dune series Novels, specifically the prequels?

I never said I actually played it

and I watched the movie without reading the book, biggest mistake ever

In the movie the road I want to know why everyone is gone and dead, how there's no living things really, how the world came to that much of a bad place, fill me in if you know.

There is no explanation in the movie or the book. Its kind of left up to the reader/viewer to interpret.

I seee :gun: :shocking:

its an amazing movie, but you have to pay attention to really understand everything, i loved it myself

The ending is epically funny...

Read the book. It's better anyway. To answer your question, though, it's never explained fully, but it's implied that it was some kind of weapon similar to a nuclear bomb because everything is burned. There's also a flashback scene in the book where there are low rumbles and flashes of light off in the distance and The Man starts filling up the bathtub with water. Kinda sounds like nukes to me. One of the great things about that story, though, is that the details aren't really necessary. The story is in the subtext and you have to read between the lines a bit to understand the point of it all...I thought it was brilliant.


Yeah, the ending to A Boy and His Dog is awesome. :laugh: Please, nobody give it away. It needs to be a surprise.

Also I can't understand why one the ______ has his death glorified and lasts so long. You'll know when you see it.

Basically a cult thing, nothing reallly plot twisting. Some how Eli is a wasteland samurai of some kind. Denzel Washington sells.

It was alright but not great.

It was good, not great like Mad Max, but good.
I'm so surprised at how little people talk about the Road Warrior on here. It's one of my favorite movies (and better then that A Boy And His Dog movie)

On AMC there is a Mad Max marathon going on as I speak, I'm watching Mad Max now and Road Warrior will be on next. (I think Beyond Thuderdome is on tomorrow, Its like AMC read my mind and decided to play post-apocalyptic movie marathons to tease me in anticipation of Fallout New Vegas.) :tops:

EDIT: Also on before Mad Max was Terminator. Definitely Post-Apocalyptic movie marathon going on.

Probably because it's assumed that everyone has seen those. That's what I assume, anyway...maybe I shouldn't. Yeah, Mad Max and The Road Warrior are huge influences on the Fallout world. Beyond the Thunderdome was...eh...not too good, in my opinion.

I think people bring up A Boy and His Dog so much because the lifestyle depictions and (especially) the underground vaults are so similar to Fallout and most people haven't seen it.

XD Me too! Now they need to play Twelve Monkeys, I still haven't seen that.

I think a lot of gamers have not seen the Mad Max films because they are too young. they probably were not even born yet. Im not saying all young people dont know about it, just a reason i think might answer the question.




see 12 Monkeys pronto. The ending will have you pondering its meaning for a long time. Its been over a decade and the ending is still questionable. Gilliam at his finest IMO. you might as well watch Brazil also.

Anyone watched the book of Eli?
A post-apocalyptic masterpiece.