It's 200+ years since the bombs dropped, you're running a thriving casino/store in an (albeit small) area of the city with flashing neon and clean streets. So why haven't you taken that unused pre-war terminal sitting on your bar/counter, and thrown it in a dumpster somewhere? Why are your shelves and floor in the back rooms cluttered with rusting tin cans and burned books? You have a fleet of hired lackeys but you can't order one of them to take out the trash or clear out the rubbish in the storeroom? I see you sweeping the floor, but you can't fool me, post-apocalyptia is filled with slobs.

Anyone else wondered about this?

To answer the terminal one: things aren't mass produced anymore ('cos you know, nuclear fallout would halt production somewhat) so it's cheaper to just keep the old one.

I've noticed it too. :laugh:

That giant gaping hole on the top right corner of The Tops on the outside makes me want to go 'SOMEONE PATCH THIS [censored] UP :swear: '

Edit:Soul makes a good point, the war wasn't just 'a war' it knocked societal progress back to what is essentially 0%

no, i didn't notice it. maybe the computers are still in use, but just turned off.

interesting, i didnt think about that really.

Im sure they got bigger things to worry about than shiny floors

I think he means the busted ones.

Some NPCs even sit and type at computers that have a big, gaping hole in the monitor.
It's a bit silly.

But yeah, even in people's private homes, where they've been living for several years, they still roll around in garbage.

And why can't The Strip, with its fleet of Securitrons, get rid of those scrapped cars and buses along the side of the road? You weren't even hit by a bomb!

Why don't you go around and pick up all the trash in the casino, make it look presentable?

Or did you already do that?

Agreed.

Everyone's also wearing 200 year old dirty clothes, living in shacks made of 200 year old scrap, and sleeping on 200 year old filthy mattresses.

And they have washing machines, and they DONT USE THEM. :yuck:

I didn't mean why don't they have a shiny new terminal, good grief I'm not stupid. I meant why keep a broken one - either scrap it, throw it, or have someone get it working if it would come in handy. I am a hoarder but even I wouldn't leave something broken sitting there for that long.

I'm more inclined to go with the suggestion that it works but it's turned off, but then that opens a whole new can of worms for me, because if that's the case why can't I turn it on? *sob*

I really need to put this game down for an hour or two and go do something IRL....

:lmao: at the thread title. I guess they've been left to make it seem more like post-apocalyptic. If all the casinos and houses were in "Tranquility Lane" condition, it would kind of break the post apocalyptic feeling, i'd imagine.

Did you see the thread where someone said they filled their bathroom with 200 and something dino toys?
We seem to like our clutter and mess.
A bit more serious, I've just always assumed it is so overwhelming there is no point. It's not in the way and maybe they keep thinking, I might need that can one day.
There are some cleaned up places so it isn't like nobody is cleaning. It is just I suppose in comparison to today's world we have more neat/tidy people than hoarders
and in Fallout there are now more hoarders than neat freaks.

I mean, seriously, look at how our world has progressed in the last 200 real life years and that was without advanced technology lying around everywhere gathering rust.

Yes I did

It gives me bad karma though, no-one even wants to be tidy

probably because new things would need whole new graphics but broken things can use broken things graphics.
Its like the setting up tents or building shacks outside an empty building with acouple of the soldiers stations and settlements. It doesnt really make sense but maybe it does if you try.
Maybe no-one cares, maybe there's a prestige attached to pre-war ruins? Maybe too much pride is taken in building your own home rather than squatting in someone others which drives people to live in horrible little shacks rather than the nice solid houses.
But mostly, it doesnt make sense. but the easy way around it is to pretend that it does.

One word: robots. You have Securitrons sitting around doing nothing. Make the lazy bastards clean a little!

I think FONV does a way better job of being "believable" than FO3, at least. :/ I mean, honestly. Every single inhabited builting and city had hoards of paper littering the floors and rusting tin cans (a health and injury hazard, you don't need a degree to figure it out) laying everywhere. I was also amused that all single beds in existence completely decayed, except that one mattress so nobody in all that time figured out you could use yao gui or dog hides or SOMETHING to make new blankets and what-have-you.

It was one of the first things I noticed when you "wake up" at the beginning of the game and talk to the Doc. I was literally ecstatic to note that the good Doctor Mitchel did not have piles of filthy 200-year-old trash covering his floor thicker than sawdust.

Yes, life svcks. The apocalypse came and went. You have no idea how your plumbing works, IF it works (and it apparently does in some places), and most people probably die of Radioactive Typhoid.... but you're still going to clean up after yourself and make your living space comfortable. Why bother neatly combing your hair into that 60's Do if you're going to leave that rotting dead cat in the corner to attract the rad roaches?

I too thought about this, if you look at the likes of the BoS base, everything is so neat and organized, but then you go to shacks that people have been living in for ages and its just a mess.

Oh I completely agree, it would be far less interesting to wander around a tidy world, and I wouldn't be able to sell all those tin cans and put the money towards an implant (I'm a hoarder, I'm not selling any good stuff like weapons "just in case") But that doesn't stop a small part of my brain worrying about it while I'm playing

Speaking of 60s Dos, where the hell are they getting all the hair gel?

It's okay Epona, take heart, you did a bad thing for a good reason!



Like me, when I shot that trader whole taught me about the Sunset Sarsaparilla Star Bottle Caps.....

.... Sure, I did a bad thing ....

.... but I had a good reason ....

.... I knew he had some of those bottle caps. :clap:

Get the Mr. Handies at Sunset Sarsaparilla to clean up everything. They're pretty efficient at picking up caps and depositing them in the trash

Totally.

I’m all for atmosphere, but come on wastelanders, get the skeletons out of your bath tub.

after an Apocalypse, people all become packrats. never know when youll need that teddy bear ;D