That has a lot of obvious plausibility. I would also suggest the four corners reference the four quadrants of the world, or (to reference the lessons) the five corners of the world (minus one). One question is to what degree these might correspond - what role do the four "bad" daedra play in the creation/mythical structure of the world in the mythology of the Tribunal Temple?

There's also the further question concerning whether the four corners reference anything else, viz, real world superstition, etc. Unfortunately I'm not competent in those areas.

If that's true, then the Provisional House is obviously the 5th corner of the world, which I think is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_dimension, an idea I've expressed more than once.

The 5th corner is obviously beating at the center of the world.

The Provisional House is the whole cartography.

Makes sense.

I just find the idea of a 5th dimension interesting.

Never said it wasn't a dimension. http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/cosmology.shtml.

so....

the four corners of the house of troubles + Lorkhan = 5?

I won't believe that until someone correlates the cornerstones with their respective corners.

Indeed, why would LORKHN be a part of that? Except for the reason that he's a "bad guy".

didn't sound plausable to me either. I was trying to figure out what the whole thing about "beating at the center of the world" meant.

Ah I see.

Couldn't "beating at the center of the world" mean his Heart? The First Stone? Thou it's not the center of the world.

Well Lorkhan might be said to be Tamriel - so maybe he is the land on which the House is built?

There is
Could that link in - either directly or somehow be a clue/contrasting factum as to a possible nature for the Provisional House?

Also Luargar2 mentioned that Lorkhan is a subgradient of Sithis.

http://www.imperial-library.info/forum_archive/index.shtml It always helps to read the entire sermons, just as Lady N said so.

Go to the Provisional House Study

Lorkhan's heart is the mythical center of the world. Also, don't forget that Tamriel is the http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/cosmology.shtml.


Also, look at sermons http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#12 and http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#14. What's going on, why is Molag Bal involved, and what/who are the eight monsters? How does that relate to http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/anuad.shtml?

Edit, oops, forgot to mention http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#18, which links the 8 (or 9) monsters to Vivec's run-in with Molag Bal (in sermons 12 and 14). The risk of working off of memory.

He learned the remaining word, CHIM



MUATRA

Its all there.

Ah yes of course I had totally forgotten that part. I think I need to re-read the Sermons once again, that will be fun.

Very nice that Cosmology by the Temple Zero Society doc

This bit is interesting:



It does not exactly describe what people experience when they visit Oblivion though, does it? And that was worked on by so many differrent Devs ... So what is the discrepancy about? In what context does this Temple Zero Society doc appear?

I think he's talking about the Selectives in Cyrodiil, and Maruhk's attempt at a pantheon for men, by men. His Book of Hours made Akatosh stable or some such.

It's in the Obscure texts section at TIL. I don't remember the original context in which it was posted, unfortunately. Obviously one must be somewhat circumspect in reading it as truth.



How does what the Selective did correspond to what Vivec is doing? (That's a question to help push your thinking along, not necessarily a criticism.)

just came been going through skeleton man's interview : http://www.imperial-library.info/interviews/skelm.shtml - nb - it says not to copy the content elsewhere - but we can link to it and refer to it.

The bit that caught my eye was about the 4 Adversaries - who correspond to the four corners of the House of Troubles

Also there is a bit in there about how Boetithiah taught certain pre-Chimer how to be Chimer - and that included knowing how to build houses and what items to bury in the four corners.

This leads me to wonder if we should be seeing the OP in that light.

ps - the last post in this thread was only 14 days ago

When the Tribunal rewrote mythic history they made an effort to graft certain elements of Velothi/Chimer religion (like the Anticipations and the House of Troubles) onto the metaphysical nature of reality. They retold the story until it was the story they wanted it to be. What was once the basis for cultural identity became spiritual truth.