Plots of Skyrim...

Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:38 am

Which game do you want to influence Skyrim the most? In which ways?

NOTE: Didn't add Fallout as an option 'cuss I never tried it...
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Tikarma Vodicka-McPherson
 
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:39 am

Theres obviously some heavy bias in you're poll for Daggerfall. Anyway, I expect Fallout, and the last few years of Oblivion's complaints, to influence Skyrim. I hope to see many of Morrowind's features back in the game.
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:28 pm

Q1) Morrowind was also "here is your villain, kill him," approach with the MQ, so that's unfair to OB. The only difference is that you had to fetch stuff, read, and spend time at the library for a while. Anyway, I prefer everyone having a motive, so DF it is.
Q2) Morrowind also had more than the great houses, but also the guilds and organizations. But...I will admit OB did have too many 1-sided politicking going on. But as for the best, DF, in theory, but Morrowind did have the better execution.
Q3) okay, that does sound right. I will say Morrowind, but I'm glad Skyrim is going to have some DF love in there with random quests
Q4) A mix.
Q4) Can a mix be an answer?
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:38 pm

Q1) Morrowind was also "here is your villain, kill him," approach with the MQ, so that's unfair to OB. The only difference is that you had to fetch stuff, read, and spend time at the library for a while. Anyway, I ?

A1) Morrowind had a tiny bit of a better plot because of the fact that you didn't imeadiatly know your the Nerevarine... (if you didn't look forward using the Uesp (I did...)) you wouldn't know Almalexia was mad... and finally: In Bloodmoon you had a choice... join Hirchine, or fight him...

While in Oblivion... well... that was pretty much "Here's your villain, go kill kim!", it was also somewhat like that in all the games factions... the Shivering isles didn't exactly have that aproach so I'll add it as a choice...
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:22 pm

Q2) Morrowind also had more than the great houses, but also the guilds and organizations. But...I will admit OB did have too many 1-sided politicking going on. But as for the best, DF, in theory, but Morrowind did have the better execution.


Well the fighters guild isn't really a political force now is it?
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:15 pm

Mages Guild had the potential to wipe out the Telvanni leadership, Thieves Guild fought against the Hlaalu created gang, Cammon Tong, Fighters Guild had their arm twisted by the CT to wipe out the Thieves Guild, and there was a radical faction in the Imperial Guard who wanted to assassinate the emperor. There's more than just Great Houses getting pissy at each other.

Also, it was easy to know that Dagoth Ur was going to be the person you will fight against.
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:32 pm

Can we have less biased polls?
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:22 am

Mages Guild had the potential to wipe out the Telvanni leadership, Thieves Guild fought against the Hlaalu created gang, Cammon Tong, Fighters Guild had their arm twisted by the CT to wipe out the Thieves Guild, and there was a radical faction in the Imperial Guard who wanted to assassinate the emperor. There's more than just Great Houses getting pissy at each other.

Also, it was easy to know that Dagoth Ur was going to be the person you will fight against.


Mainly talking about you being the Nerevarine... I was expecting to see Jiub at the battle of redmountain! As the nerevarine...

And your actually right about that... sorry... I haven't played Morrowind for to long... busy with Daggerfall... but your acctually right the guilds in Morrowind had an amazingly big political influence...
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:23 am

Can we have less biased polls?


Tell me what to change and I'll change it...
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:46 am

Tell me what to change and I'll change it...

Just give the names of the games, not examples. Anything besides that is biased. Also, not really fair to put SI on there as it isn't really a full game, regardless of the fact it felt like one. I hope they can take all the best parts of the games and use them, but from how it looks as of right now they are going in a completely different direction.
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:07 pm

Please don't put your biased opinions in the polls.

Favorite enemy would be Dagoth Ur (not really getting the 'somewhere in between' thing)
I can't decide between Daggerfall and Morrowind's political system, they are both very good. Also, there truly were a power struggle in Vvardenfell too.
Favorite guild quests are Morrowind. Not because of corrupt fighters guild though. There were so many fun quests in the Temple and the cult too.

I'm not sure what will influence Skyrim most. It seems that they are bringing a lot back from both Oblivion and Morrowind. Only time will tell.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:20 am

Can we have less biased polls?

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Every single thing you said about Oblivion is just straight up wrong. Mankar Camoran had a motive. He was misguided in his efforts, but he thought what he was doing was fair and just. Cyrodiil is not a "blank, happy empire." It's the exact opposite. The Emperor is murdered, Martin becomes unavailable, and the Empire is in decline. It's not blank and it's certainly not happy. And NONE of the quest lines had "same old villain stuff." That idea is completely ridiculous. Mankar Camoran and Mannimarco are the only two NPCs in the game I could count as "villains," both of which there's more to than just that.

Try looking into Oblivion for five seconds instead of getting married to Morrowind.

Also, Jyggalag had a motive too. He was reclaiming his realm.

EDIT: Since you changed the options, I'll answer. Keep in mind I've barely played any Daggerfall, so I won't be including it in my responses.

I like Dagoth Ur the best. He's one of the most interesting villains in history in my opinion.
Cyrodiil had the best political system. Morrowind had a bunch of racism and in-fighting and no one could get along with anyone. Cyrodiil had its own problems, but it was controlled yet interesting. Just wish the Empire would get out of the other provinces and keep to themselves in Cyrodiil.

I want Skyrim to be its own game. Arena is different from Daggerfall is different from Morrowind is different from Oblivion. Let Skyrim be different too, don't hold it up to some other game and expect the province of Skyrim to be like the province of Morrowind or Cyrodiil. It's different. Let it stay that way.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:56 am

^

Every single thing you said about Oblivion is just straight up wrong. Mankar Camoran had a motive. He was misguided in his efforts, but he thought what he was doing was fair and just. Cyrodiil is not a "blank, happy empire." It's the exact opposite. The Emperor is murdered, Martin becomes unavailable, and the Empire is in decline. It's not blank and it's certainly not happy. And NONE of the quest lines had "same old villain stuff." That idea is completely ridiculous. Mankar Camoran and Mannimarco are the only two NPCs in the game I could count as "villains," both of which there's more to than just that.

Try looking into Oblivion for five seconds instead of getting married to Morrowind.

This. Thank you for changing the first set of answers but all of the other questions are biased if they have anything besides the name of the game.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:34 am

By best enemy, do you mean the main villain? If so, why isn't Arena on the list? I felt like killing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6yCJ2Q8sM way more personal than most of the other enemies, mostly because he is always at your heels since he is able to scry on you and talk to you through telepathy.

Edit: To clarify however, I do think that all TES villains are quite well written.
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:26 am

By best enemy, do you mean the main villain? If so, why isn't Arena on the list? I felt like killing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6yCJ2Q8sM way more personal than most of the other enemies, mostly because he is always at your heels since he is able to scry on you and talk to you through telepathy.

Edit: To clarify however, I do think that all TES villains are quite well written.


The reason Arena Ain't there is because I haven't completed enough of it yet...
that's also why redguard and battlespire ain't on the lists...
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:38 pm

Try looking into Oblivion for five seconds instead of getting married to Morrowind.


First of all: I voted Daggerfall in all but faction quests....
Second of all: I played Oblivion for (atleast) two years before I got Morrowind.... I've only had Morrowind half a year... and I've only had Daggerfall for a few months....
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Post » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:31 am

Well, didn't play Daggerfall but I kind of expect it to be underplayed and receive less votes so I mentally kind of disregard it at this point in polls.

Which game had the best enemy?
Morrowind, Dagoth Ur >>> Vaguely menacing demon who's evil because he's a demon and demons like being evil and destructive etc. etc.

Which game had the best political system?
Morrowind, Oblivion didn't have much of a political system really. Morrowind had the great houses.

Which game had the best faction quests?
Oblivion (Dark Brotherhood)

Which game do you EXPECT to influence Skyrim the most?
A mix.

Which game do you HOPE will influence Skyrim the most?
A mix.
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