Two possible explanations:

1 - simple game mechanic.

2 - the barriers between Oblivion and Mundus were further weakening and the creation of Gates is possible by this point without using Conjurers. You'll see a lot of gates appear at once in Imperial City during the final mission of the main quest as well.



Other Daedric princes may have assisted Dagon. In a story written by former dev and freelance writer MK a couple years ago, Winged Twilights descend on a city in Morrowind. These are Azura's daedra. Who knows? It's unlikely though. She probably just lent some for Dagon's invasion. It might be well within his power to open dozens or hundreds of gates simultaneously. We're never given any real extent of a Daedric Prince's ability to focus his mind on hundreds of things at once. It's a cliche' god power so maybe Dagon can do it.



Great Gates are apparently the big guns. In the Oblivion storyline they're apparently used to summon powerful Daedra such as Siege Walkers or Lord Dagon himself into Mundus.

then it is true if i say that the greater the gate, the more the powerful daedra can come through?

then this would mean the more powerful Daedra, like Mehrunes himself, are limited to the gates and ultimately the plains that they occupy?

I didn't necessarily say that for sure. It seems to be strongly implied by the main quest game mechanics of Elder Scrolls 4 that the bigger, stronger Daedric weapons/creatures like the Siege Engine can only come through Great Gates due to their immense size and power. These are the Gates used to attack Kvatch, Ghostgate, Ald'ruhn and (unsuccessfully) Bruma.

I am pretty sure we don't actually see a Great Gate when Mehrunes Dagon appears at the Temple of the One but I can't imagine how else he appeared there. It would seem to be indirectly implied.

Also note that it's not possible for Dagon to fully manifest himself on Nirn. Not until all the Towers/Stones on Nirn fall and the barriers completely disappear. That was an Avatar of him and much weaker than his full power in all likelihood.

Note that when I refer to Towers and Stones in this instance I mean the Great Towers, the ones that hold Mundus together/seperate from Oblivion, not the towers the Sigil Stones are held in. Nirn has Stones, too. One was at Red Mountain. It was removed in ES III. Another one is the Amulet of Kings. It was destroyed but replaced with a statue of Akatosh that acts as a Stone in its absence.

very very interesting...

i was under the impression that i killed Dagon. well i know i cant REALLY kill him but you know what i mean. this changes some things in my perspective. thanks

You can "kill" a Daedra but not in the same manner as you can "kill" someone in Nirn.

Daedras/Aedras simply "falls a sleep".

and are then "transported" back the realm of Oblivion right? to be summoned again another day?

Yepp back to their Plane(t).

Since there are realms for daedra and for aedra, is there also a realm for undead?

the undead are not a special type of being like the et'ada, so why would they have their own realm? they are merely reanimated people.

well, conjuation is described as a school of magic, with the ability to summon OTHER WORLDLY CREATURES, and thats why I wanted to know what the undead world, is named.

I'm somewhat sure (if I don't remember totally wrong now) that one realm visited in Battlespire was a realm of undead, ruled by floating crystal undeads. Additionally, if I remember correctly, at least one book in Oblivion mentioned that Conjuration summons undead from Oblivion, and is therefore only bordering on Necromancy, but not Necromancy itself.

I wonder about that, Dreto? So, where's Menien Goneld in the fight at Kvatch?

Or should we leave it as a matter of gameplay as we wonder why our followers somehow manage to return to us? Or why the Daedra that attacked Kvatch are still in Kvatch after you close the gate?

the summoning of undead falls under conjuration simply due to gameplay mechanic. its technically necromancy, for the most part, but since that is not a school of magic it is grouped with the nearest applicable.

the Battlespire is a pocket dimension made to train elite Imperial battle mages. It is overun by Daedra in the service of Dagon.

The book in question is http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/black_arts_on_trial.shtml and it only talks about summoning an Ancestor Ghost. It doesn't mention Oblivion or the origin the ghosts.

I commend you to my conclusion earlier for one



And maybe suggest that the idea of beings being drawn back when a gate closes refers to other kinds of gating techniques. For example the Battlespire was in a pocket universe and maintained there by the Anchors = generators. When you conjure daedroth from Oblivion using the spell you have to include something to insure the Daedroth is forced to return to Oblivion when its service is complete etc.

Note that the Transluminal Gating text mentions other ways to create gates using words and gestures only - that would likely be the Summon Daedra spells you know.

Mind you I would be very **** off at someone who summoned my sword when I was in the middle of a fight to the death with a monster.

Come to think of it if I was in the middle of a tryste with a Daedric Seducer it could be a bit embarrassing ...